Posted on Apr 16, 2016
Is there a regulation that governs the wear of Dress Blues by Veterans? AR 670-1?
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At Food City, we honor those people that serve and protect our country, and we know that without the men and women who watch out for us, we would not have an...
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SGT Jamie Jackson
Ok Sir..that was dirty......put a lump in my throat! You know near death experienced folks are emotional pricks....just saying.
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Capt Seid Waddell
SGT Jamie Jackson, roger that. It makes my eyes spring a leak every time I see it too.
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Just a clarification on this.....it's for my own knowledge.....I'm not calling our a "retiree".....I'm retireed, I would like to know facts instead of looking like ass if I chose to dawn my dress uniform, leaders or NCO'S (some here on RP) quick to judge someone....great leaders.
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There used to be a Regulation 35-10 that said how a retired military person is to whear the uniform and when it could / should be worn. If the BX / PX has uniform sales section they should have a copy of the regulation handy or for purchase.
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AR670-1 Wear of the uniform by retired personnel
Found in Section 30.3 Page 314
Applies to Gender Both
a. Personnel who will be advanced to a higher grade upon retirement have the option of wearing the insignia of that grade thereafter.
b. Retired personnel on active duty will wear their uniform and insignia in the same manner as prescribed for personnel in the Active Army of corresponding grade and branch.
c. Retired personnel not on active duty may wear either the uniform reflecting their grade and branch on the date of their retirement, or the uniform for personnel in the Active Army of corresponding grade and branch, when appropriate, but may not intermix the two uniforms. Personnel will wear the grade as shown on the retired grade of rank line on the retirement order.
d. Retired personnel not on active duty are not authorized to wear shoulder sleeve insignia, except as follows:
(1) Personnel performing instructor duties at an educational institution conducting courses of instruction approved by the Armed Forces will wear the shoulder sleeve insignia of the command that is responsible for the course of instruction. Senior and junior ROTC instructors will wear the Cadet Command shoulder sleeve insignia on their left shoulder (see AR 145–1 and 145–2 for wear of the uniform by senior and junior ROTC instructors, respectively).
(2) Retired personnel are authorized to wear the shoulder sleeve insignia for U.S. Army Retirees on the left shoulder. The insignia consists of a white cloth disc with a blue border, and an inner white disc with a red border, which bears a blue and white adaptation of the coat of arms of the United States. The outer disk that surrounds the coat of arms contains the inscription “UNITED STATES ARMY” in red letters at the top, and the word “RETIRED” in blue letters at the bottom (see fig 30–1).
(3) Retired personnel may wear the shoulder sleeve insignia for former wartime service (SSI–FWTS) on the right shoulder if they were authorized wear of the SSI–FWTS while on active duty.
e. Retired personnel not on active duty are not authorized to wear the Army uniform when they are instructors or responsible for military discipline at an educational institution, unless the educational institution is conducting courses of instruction approved by the Armed Forces.
f. In addition to the occasions for wear listed above, retired personnel are authorized to wear the uniform only on the following occasions. Uniforms for these occasions are restricted to service and dress uniforms; the BDU and physical fitness uniforms will not be worn.
(1) While attending military funerals, memorial services, weddings, inaugurals, and other occasions of ceremony.
(2) Attending parades on national or state holidays, or other patriotic parades or ceremonies in which any active or reserve United States military unit is taking part. Wear of the Army uniform at any other time, or for any other purpose than stated above is prohibited.
g. Retirees are authorized to wear the physical fitness uniform (PFU) or the improved physical fitness uniform (IPFU) under the following provisions:
(1) May wear the PFU or the IPFU with civilian attire off the installation.
(2) When wearing the PFU or the IPFU as a complete uniform, retirees will—
(a) Wear only authorized accessories corresponding to those worn by personnel of the Active Army.
(b) Keep the sleeves down on the sweatshirt or jacket, the legs down on the pants, and the t-shirt tucked inside the trunks.
(c) Not roll or push up the sleeves of the IPFU sweatshirt or the PFU/IPFU jacket.
(d) Wear the sleeves of the IPFU sweatshirt cuffed or uncuffed; may not cuff the IPFU jacket sleeves.
(e) Wear the black knit cap pulled down snugly on the head, with the bottom edge of the cap folded up; will not roll the edge of the cap. A similar, commercially designed black knit cap is authorized for wear. h. Pregnant retirees are authorized to wear the t-shirt/sweatshirt outside the trunks/sweatpants.
The United States Army retired Service Identification Badge may be purchased by retirees at any clothing and sales shop on any military post or base or PX or BX and are authorized for wear on your dress uniform with or without a Combat Service Identification Badge if you have earned one or not.
Found in Section 30.3 Page 314
Applies to Gender Both
a. Personnel who will be advanced to a higher grade upon retirement have the option of wearing the insignia of that grade thereafter.
b. Retired personnel on active duty will wear their uniform and insignia in the same manner as prescribed for personnel in the Active Army of corresponding grade and branch.
c. Retired personnel not on active duty may wear either the uniform reflecting their grade and branch on the date of their retirement, or the uniform for personnel in the Active Army of corresponding grade and branch, when appropriate, but may not intermix the two uniforms. Personnel will wear the grade as shown on the retired grade of rank line on the retirement order.
d. Retired personnel not on active duty are not authorized to wear shoulder sleeve insignia, except as follows:
(1) Personnel performing instructor duties at an educational institution conducting courses of instruction approved by the Armed Forces will wear the shoulder sleeve insignia of the command that is responsible for the course of instruction. Senior and junior ROTC instructors will wear the Cadet Command shoulder sleeve insignia on their left shoulder (see AR 145–1 and 145–2 for wear of the uniform by senior and junior ROTC instructors, respectively).
(2) Retired personnel are authorized to wear the shoulder sleeve insignia for U.S. Army Retirees on the left shoulder. The insignia consists of a white cloth disc with a blue border, and an inner white disc with a red border, which bears a blue and white adaptation of the coat of arms of the United States. The outer disk that surrounds the coat of arms contains the inscription “UNITED STATES ARMY” in red letters at the top, and the word “RETIRED” in blue letters at the bottom (see fig 30–1).
(3) Retired personnel may wear the shoulder sleeve insignia for former wartime service (SSI–FWTS) on the right shoulder if they were authorized wear of the SSI–FWTS while on active duty.
e. Retired personnel not on active duty are not authorized to wear the Army uniform when they are instructors or responsible for military discipline at an educational institution, unless the educational institution is conducting courses of instruction approved by the Armed Forces.
f. In addition to the occasions for wear listed above, retired personnel are authorized to wear the uniform only on the following occasions. Uniforms for these occasions are restricted to service and dress uniforms; the BDU and physical fitness uniforms will not be worn.
(1) While attending military funerals, memorial services, weddings, inaugurals, and other occasions of ceremony.
(2) Attending parades on national or state holidays, or other patriotic parades or ceremonies in which any active or reserve United States military unit is taking part. Wear of the Army uniform at any other time, or for any other purpose than stated above is prohibited.
g. Retirees are authorized to wear the physical fitness uniform (PFU) or the improved physical fitness uniform (IPFU) under the following provisions:
(1) May wear the PFU or the IPFU with civilian attire off the installation.
(2) When wearing the PFU or the IPFU as a complete uniform, retirees will—
(a) Wear only authorized accessories corresponding to those worn by personnel of the Active Army.
(b) Keep the sleeves down on the sweatshirt or jacket, the legs down on the pants, and the t-shirt tucked inside the trunks.
(c) Not roll or push up the sleeves of the IPFU sweatshirt or the PFU/IPFU jacket.
(d) Wear the sleeves of the IPFU sweatshirt cuffed or uncuffed; may not cuff the IPFU jacket sleeves.
(e) Wear the black knit cap pulled down snugly on the head, with the bottom edge of the cap folded up; will not roll the edge of the cap. A similar, commercially designed black knit cap is authorized for wear. h. Pregnant retirees are authorized to wear the t-shirt/sweatshirt outside the trunks/sweatpants.
The United States Army retired Service Identification Badge may be purchased by retirees at any clothing and sales shop on any military post or base or PX or BX and are authorized for wear on your dress uniform with or without a Combat Service Identification Badge if you have earned one or not.
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SSG Clyde Koontz
What is the date of the regulation you were using? Is the SSI-FWTS authorized again? When I retired the Dress Blues had no authorized unit patches, they had a Combat Identification Badge(CIB).
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SSG Byron Hewett
Unit patches are NOT authorized on the blues.
AR670-1 Dated 10April2015
The Combat Service Identification Badge is pin on badge that is centered on front right breast pocket of the dress blues jacket, if you have retired then the CSIB moved to the left side of the front right breast pocket and the United States Army Retired service identification badge(SIB) will be placed to the right of the CSIB.
If you have the class A dress green uniform your unit patch and combat patches will remain on the shoulder sleeves on the left or the right in their perspective places as denoted in the regs. Unit patches are not authorized on the dress blue uniform as like always.
The United States Army Retired identification badge is only for Soldiers who have retired. there is also a revised badge both are authorized for use, But you have to have retired to be authorized to wear it.
there is a service id badge it looks like the gold badge and instead of saying retired it just says soldier for life and it is for non retiree veterans.
AR670-1 Dated 10April2015
The Combat Service Identification Badge is pin on badge that is centered on front right breast pocket of the dress blues jacket, if you have retired then the CSIB moved to the left side of the front right breast pocket and the United States Army Retired service identification badge(SIB) will be placed to the right of the CSIB.
If you have the class A dress green uniform your unit patch and combat patches will remain on the shoulder sleeves on the left or the right in their perspective places as denoted in the regs. Unit patches are not authorized on the dress blue uniform as like always.
The United States Army Retired identification badge is only for Soldiers who have retired. there is also a revised badge both are authorized for use, But you have to have retired to be authorized to wear it.
there is a service id badge it looks like the gold badge and instead of saying retired it just says soldier for life and it is for non retiree veterans.
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SSG Clyde Koontz
SSG Byron Hewett - Thank you. Your earlier post was referring to the wear of Unit Patches (SSI) and Combat Patches ( SSI-FWTS). I was thinking maybe you were using an older version of the reg. I'm glad you were able to help keep everyone straight on that. Again, thank you.
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For you that are Navy, here's Navy's regs. Section 4. 1401.3.b.(2):
(2) Former Members of the Armed Forces. Unless discussed in DOD Directive 1334.1 or Title 10 U.S. Code Sec. 772, former members who served honorably during a war and whose most recent service was terminated under honorable conditions, may wear the uniform of the highest grade held during their service only on the following occasions and during travel related to those occasions.
(a) Military funerals, memorial services, weddings and inaugurals.
(b) Patriotic parades or ceremonies in which any active or reserve United States military unit is taking part. Wearing of the uniform or any part of it at any other time or for any other purpose is prohibited.
http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/support/uniforms/uniformregulations/Chapter1/Pages/1401LawsDirectives.aspx
(2) Former Members of the Armed Forces. Unless discussed in DOD Directive 1334.1 or Title 10 U.S. Code Sec. 772, former members who served honorably during a war and whose most recent service was terminated under honorable conditions, may wear the uniform of the highest grade held during their service only on the following occasions and during travel related to those occasions.
(a) Military funerals, memorial services, weddings and inaugurals.
(b) Patriotic parades or ceremonies in which any active or reserve United States military unit is taking part. Wearing of the uniform or any part of it at any other time or for any other purpose is prohibited.
http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/support/uniforms/uniformregulations/Chapter1/Pages/1401LawsDirectives.aspx
1. GENERAL. Various laws, regulations and amplifying directives issued by competent authorities govern the wear of uniforms by Navy personnel. Applicable laws include:
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PO1 Donald Kennelly
That being said, I have worn it to my nephew's graduation from boot camp in Great Lakes, and to my other nephew's Guard commissioning. I will wear it also to my other nephew's AF commissioning ceremonies. I have yet to have anyone have any issues with that. I am always groomed in accordance to the regs and the uniform is compliant with the regs when I retired.
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One instance that regardless of regulations you are not allowed to wear your dress uniform.
You put on 40 lbs after your discharge.
You put on 40 lbs after your discharge.
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SGT Jamie Jackson
Well....I think this is an outstanding response...loved it, but in today's Army I've seen a lot of screaming bottoms on blues.....just saying!
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The only time I have worn my uniform after I retired is if requested at a military funeral. Then I have to explain I was 2 topping with 3 rocking!
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