Posted on Jun 7, 2016
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I seem to remember there was a regulation or policy that required commands to give SMs time during the duty day to complete NCOES DL. I've exhausted my google-fu and thought I'd ask the crowd.
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SFC Movement Nco
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I have always been told you complete DL courses on your own time. I make it a practice to set aside some time during the workday, usually during my lunch, to work on DL courses.
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SFC Medical Programs Director
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Although it is highly recommended to set aside time during your personal time to complete SSD or DL NCOES, SMs incur many obstacles such as internet connection with CAC enabled ability.
C CO 230TH BSB schedules time during MUTA 6,7 and 8 (usually twice a year) for SMs to complete.
As RNCO & PSG, I have been authorized to pay 1MUTA (half a day drill), if the SM brings their certificate in to drill and it was started, completed after the previous drill.
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SFC Movement Nco
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SFC (Join to see) - TPU Soldiers get paid 10 MUTAs for completing their SSDs on their own time.
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1SG Civil Affairs Specialist
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For a Reserve Soldier, it is partially reimbursed; paid for with ATAs. The Soldier is expected to complete the course on their own, but they are compensated for a portion of their time.
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MSG Intermediate Care Technician
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1SG (Join to see) ATAs? Do you happen to have a ALARACT or DOD policy on hand that shows that? My BN and RPAC like to give me pushback about pay for DL training. I would like to have some ammo to fire back
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1SG Civil Affairs Specialist
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MSG (Join to see) - I believe that there was a clarification published later on this setting a cap and establishing guidance on how much each course is worth, but here is the original policy.
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/ad2010_06.pdf
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1SG Civil Affairs Specialist
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MSG (Join to see) - I know in my command that the ATAs for DL were suspended for the balance of FY 16 as they ran out of money. Running out of money because lots of Soldiers take advantage of this to better themselves is a good problem to have. Now budget better next year.
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MSG Scott O'Hagan
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It all depends on your commander.
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SPC Joshua Dawson
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Yes in most situations your chain of command has to allow something to happen whether it is actually within regulations or not.
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Is there a requirement for your Command to give you time to complete Distance Learning (DL) SLC (68W Phase 1)?
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2LT (Join to see) If I remember correctly that statement is usually found in the statement of understanding before you start your course. My battle buddy 1SG (Join to see) works in OPS at the NCO Academy at Sam. Although your unit is supposed to provide you the ability to work on your DL, we all know it usually will not happen. I personally volunteered for Staff Duty to work on NCOES DL or just completed them in my own personal time. I would recommend that you bring up your concerns to your first line supervisor. Come up with a plan on how to manage your educational obligation with your work obligations. I would recommend asking for 2 hours either at the start of the day or before COB so you can still complete the mission you all have. Good Luck!
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SFC Healthcare Specialist (Combat Medic)
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AR350-1/F. Once you give them this, then it's just really up to your commander if he wants to give you available time during the typically duty day to complete it. The DL doesn't take that long to complete, typically going on auto pilot with it and doing the small task you can do while you complete it will be a good. You're given a few months to knock it out, so while your typing stuff up, just open it up.
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1SG Vet Technician
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I don't disagree with this tactic, but I want to point out that the ability to go auto pilot on these, kind of defeats their purpose.

This is one of the problems I have with most DL content
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2LT Medical Student
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Awesome. Thanks man - looks like it's settled.
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