Posted on Mar 29, 2018
Is there a time frame to notify soldiers that they will be taking an APFT?
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I was just told that I will be taking the APFT tomorrow morning and it is currently 1800
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Nope.
The commander can do it whenever he/she wishes.
However for it to be a record APFT, they must be at least four months apart.
The commander can do it whenever he/she wishes.
However for it to be a record APFT, they must be at least four months apart.
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PFC (Join to see) NO, you simply must be told before the event if it is a "For Record" test
"(4) RECORD APFT IS DEFINED AS AN APFT ADMINISTERED BY THE COMMANDER AND SPECIFIED BEFOREHAND THAT THE RESULTS ARE FOR RECORD, THIS IS TO INCLUDE A MAKEUP OR RE-TEST APFT. A MAKE-UP OR RETEST APFT DOES NOT PREVENT A SOLDIER FROM TAKING THE NEXT RECORD APFT SCHEDULED BY THE COMMANDER. COMMANDER MAY ADMINISTER THE APFT AS OFTEN AS THEY WISH (FOR RECORD OR PRACTICE) AS LONG AS THEY ADHERE TO THE POLICY DESCRIBED BELOW:"
A. THE ACTIVE ARMY (AC), ACTIVE GUARD/RESERVE (AGR) SOLDIERS WILL TAKE THE APFT FOR RECORD AT LEAST TWICE EACH CALENDAR YEAR. SOLDIERS IN THE ARNG TPUS WILL TAKE THE APFT FOR RECORD AT LEAST ONCE EACH CALENDAR YEAR.
B. A MINIMUM OF FOUR MONTHS WILL SEPARATE RECORD TESTS FOR AC, AGR AND USAR TPU SOLDIERS. A MINIMUM OF EIGHT MONTHS WILL SEPARATE RECORD TESTS FOR ARNG TPU SOLDIERS. "
That said, If it was on the training calendar and you, the SM did not bother to read it, your lack of knowledge is your own fault.
If it is an unplanned off calendar event being thrown in last minute due to some missed requirement or drop dead task from higher, Id consider it piss poor planning on the Commanders part.
In general, other than a Unannounced UA, a commander wants to see his team successful, so it would be best not to "surprise" the team with an APFT for record.
I've done it ONCE, the company paid the price for ONE senior NCO who always managed to be absent the day of the record APFT...and his make up APFT done by "others" always had him near max and passing weigh in screen ...........
So the CDR, and company 1SG arranged quietly to have a company record APFT, it was announced at morning formation and happened immediate following. I wont say it was the best idea, and it was not "fair" but it was successful
"(4) RECORD APFT IS DEFINED AS AN APFT ADMINISTERED BY THE COMMANDER AND SPECIFIED BEFOREHAND THAT THE RESULTS ARE FOR RECORD, THIS IS TO INCLUDE A MAKEUP OR RE-TEST APFT. A MAKE-UP OR RETEST APFT DOES NOT PREVENT A SOLDIER FROM TAKING THE NEXT RECORD APFT SCHEDULED BY THE COMMANDER. COMMANDER MAY ADMINISTER THE APFT AS OFTEN AS THEY WISH (FOR RECORD OR PRACTICE) AS LONG AS THEY ADHERE TO THE POLICY DESCRIBED BELOW:"
A. THE ACTIVE ARMY (AC), ACTIVE GUARD/RESERVE (AGR) SOLDIERS WILL TAKE THE APFT FOR RECORD AT LEAST TWICE EACH CALENDAR YEAR. SOLDIERS IN THE ARNG TPUS WILL TAKE THE APFT FOR RECORD AT LEAST ONCE EACH CALENDAR YEAR.
B. A MINIMUM OF FOUR MONTHS WILL SEPARATE RECORD TESTS FOR AC, AGR AND USAR TPU SOLDIERS. A MINIMUM OF EIGHT MONTHS WILL SEPARATE RECORD TESTS FOR ARNG TPU SOLDIERS. "
That said, If it was on the training calendar and you, the SM did not bother to read it, your lack of knowledge is your own fault.
If it is an unplanned off calendar event being thrown in last minute due to some missed requirement or drop dead task from higher, Id consider it piss poor planning on the Commanders part.
In general, other than a Unannounced UA, a commander wants to see his team successful, so it would be best not to "surprise" the team with an APFT for record.
I've done it ONCE, the company paid the price for ONE senior NCO who always managed to be absent the day of the record APFT...and his make up APFT done by "others" always had him near max and passing weigh in screen ...........
So the CDR, and company 1SG arranged quietly to have a company record APFT, it was announced at morning formation and happened immediate following. I wont say it was the best idea, and it was not "fair" but it was successful
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Nope, its a command decision. Soldiers are required to maintain physical readiness at all times which means they can execute a passing APFT at any time.
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You gotta' be mobile, agile and hostile, stay ready so you don't waste time getting that way. The Commander can drop an APFT on you any time. Record test every six, but not less than 4 months apart.
That said we used to have APFTs scheduled and posted on the Training schedule monthly so we could roll up eligible folks coming off profile recovery periods, past failures, promotions, NCOES or new arrivals who lost their score cards en-route. Having it on the calendar alleviated the "hay Joe APFT tomorrow for you" stuff.
That said we used to have APFTs scheduled and posted on the Training schedule monthly so we could roll up eligible folks coming off profile recovery periods, past failures, promotions, NCOES or new arrivals who lost their score cards en-route. Having it on the calendar alleviated the "hay Joe APFT tomorrow for you" stuff.
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Best practice is to send out a MFR in advance with those that are taking the APFT. But, they don't have to do it that way.
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I don't know about the Army but in the Marine Corps everyone knows that you have to conduct a PFT once a quarter. So when I was a junior Marine I was also already until I ran a PFT after which I got fat and nasty unit the next quarter rinse and repeat. But normally I would give my Marines a two week to month notice..
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No, Commanders Call, but you must be told before you start if it is for record or not.
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So originally I was told by my NCOIC that I will take it on the 2nd of April. Here it is now the 29th and they said I am now expected to take it tomorrow morning at 0500. With that being said I told that I am not feeling well and I am still stuck at work with a migraine at 1830. They said that I don't have to take it however I still have to be at the APFT in summer PT's for, "support"
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Private.. first, if you’re stuck at work with with a “migraine”, why are you posting stuff on the computer? I’m leaning towards, “mild headache”.
Second. It’s a pt test. They’re easy. Unless you’re really “that guy”, you should be able to pass an APFT on 10 minutes notice with a case of chicken pox and ingrown toe nails. They told you to take a pt test. You pt every morning. So it’s nothing you’re not used to. It’s not like they said, “hey private, go paint the ceiling”, and then hand you a ladder and a brush.
Here’s my perspective and the mindset I told my soldiers they neeeded to have. “If you’re not in the fight, you’re training to be in the fight.” Everything you do should be with that mindset. If downrange, you squad leader was like, “ok fellas, bad news, just got word, plans changed, we have to roll out in 5 hours, check you gear, and be ready in 2.” Are you going moan and gripe and say you have a headache and that weren’t supposed to go on mission until next Thursday?
Again, it’s just a pt test. Unless you’re injured (NOT a headache or tired, etc), there’s no reason to not be able to pass. Especially as a PFC, doing PT is one of the easiest, most basic soldiering skills in your tool box. There will be plenty of opportunities in your career to pick and choose when you butt heads up against the Army, NCOs, Officers...taking PT tests isn’t one of them. Just go and take it.
Second. It’s a pt test. They’re easy. Unless you’re really “that guy”, you should be able to pass an APFT on 10 minutes notice with a case of chicken pox and ingrown toe nails. They told you to take a pt test. You pt every morning. So it’s nothing you’re not used to. It’s not like they said, “hey private, go paint the ceiling”, and then hand you a ladder and a brush.
Here’s my perspective and the mindset I told my soldiers they neeeded to have. “If you’re not in the fight, you’re training to be in the fight.” Everything you do should be with that mindset. If downrange, you squad leader was like, “ok fellas, bad news, just got word, plans changed, we have to roll out in 5 hours, check you gear, and be ready in 2.” Are you going moan and gripe and say you have a headache and that weren’t supposed to go on mission until next Thursday?
Again, it’s just a pt test. Unless you’re injured (NOT a headache or tired, etc), there’s no reason to not be able to pass. Especially as a PFC, doing PT is one of the easiest, most basic soldiering skills in your tool box. There will be plenty of opportunities in your career to pick and choose when you butt heads up against the Army, NCOs, Officers...taking PT tests isn’t one of them. Just go and take it.
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SFC (Join to see)
Depending on the BDE CDR, there is a requirement that it would be in the training schedule in DTMS. But with prior coordination, a commander could get their BC to approve it 24 hours beforehand.
Now putting names on it, that can be done with a 5 minute notice if the CDR desires.
Now putting names on it, that can be done with a 5 minute notice if the CDR desires.
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