Posted on Apr 27, 2016
Is there an AR stating that a Specialist has to go to parade rest for a Specialist?
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I'm am a specialist assigned to a infantry unit, in my squad we have two team leaders who are also specialist. I respect that they are team leaders. But lately they have been giving corrective training for not going to parade rest or by not addressing them as specialist when I myself am a specialist. Is there an army regulation or anything supporting there actions?
11B: Infantryman
SPC
Army Regulations
Team Leader
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They are Team leads, you are subordinate by position. What is wrong with giving them the proper courtesy. They are doing extra work for the same pay. There will always be a first among peers as long as you remain in service. It is really simple for the squad leader to order you to provide certain courtesy’s and respect that coincide with the position. Would you rather be the Soldier known as the Team player and professional, or the one who needs and order for every action. You get the picture
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If they have been placed in charge, yeah- I suppose they can lock you up, you two must not be on good terms.
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They are the team leaders, you aren’t, respect the position, it has nothing to do with rank.
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As a SFC attending ANCOC (SLC), I stood at parade rest for SSGs who were instructors for BNCOC because they were NCOA cadre.
As a SSG in the Basic Airborne Course, I stood at parade rest for Black Hat SGTs and SSGs, because they were cadre.
Don't make yourself a popup target.
It's harder to overcome being labeled as anything other than, hard charger, disciplined.
Especially, when one insists they don't have to do something just because its traditional, or the expected standard, solely because it's not written in the regulation. There will likely be a time when you want something that someone isn't 'required by regulation.' Your reputation as a team player, or not, will likely determine what happens. Don't believe corrective training, or an Article 15 are the worst thing that can happen. Awards, schools, etc., which aren't "required," are likely to be outside of your grasp.
Sure, it's unlikely that you'd receive UCMJ, as it would likely be kicked back by JAG. However, there's always an however, the phrase "contrary to the good order and discipline of the unit" comes to mind. Not a good reputation.
Finally, practice the discipline, it'll make you a better Soldier and person.
As a SSG in the Basic Airborne Course, I stood at parade rest for Black Hat SGTs and SSGs, because they were cadre.
Don't make yourself a popup target.
It's harder to overcome being labeled as anything other than, hard charger, disciplined.
Especially, when one insists they don't have to do something just because its traditional, or the expected standard, solely because it's not written in the regulation. There will likely be a time when you want something that someone isn't 'required by regulation.' Your reputation as a team player, or not, will likely determine what happens. Don't believe corrective training, or an Article 15 are the worst thing that can happen. Awards, schools, etc., which aren't "required," are likely to be outside of your grasp.
Sure, it's unlikely that you'd receive UCMJ, as it would likely be kicked back by JAG. However, there's always an however, the phrase "contrary to the good order and discipline of the unit" comes to mind. Not a good reputation.
Finally, practice the discipline, it'll make you a better Soldier and person.
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Define corrective training? If your/their definition and implementation of corrective training/corrective action is not in accordance with Army regulations, you/they are wrong.
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