Posted on Oct 21, 2020
PVT Fire Control Specialist
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is it possible to reclass to a different mos during you’re current contract, under certain circumstances (like a memo signed of by my battery or battalion commander) instead of being discharged of my service because of a chapter 515 through behavior health?
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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You could definitely reclass if you weren't being discharged. Your battery and battalion Commanders are the ones discharging, so why would they recommend you reclass?
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PVT Fire Control Specialist
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I’m being discharged through my behavior health provider not my coc, no paper work had begun yet SFC.
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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PVT (Join to see) unless it's a medical discharge, which it is not, it requires your command team to initiate and process. Chapter 5-15 isn't just a random term. It's chapter 5-15 of AR 635-200, the regulation for enlisted separation. If you look in there you will see that your chain of command is the Separation authority not your mental health provider.
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SFC (Join to see) - spot on. mental health provider can make a recommendation but CoC is the separation authority
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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Look, BH problems are not MOS dependent. I don't know what your diagnosis is (and I don't want to know). But it will not magically get better if you change MOS. Start figuring out your civilian life.
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Appreciate it SFC O’Mally, field artillery isn’t all planned out for me, especially when you have toxic soldiers and non commissioned officers (specialist and below) and (sergeants and above) in the same battery as you are in, but I appreciate the reality check.
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PVT Donovan Graham
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Not likely. Got the same chapter in January this year. Depending on what your RE code is (3 or 4 most likely) and characterization of service, wait six months then start working on a waiver or just do something else. I decided to just go back to community college and it ain't too bad.
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LTC Hardware Test Engineer
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36 years and I've never seen anyone get a waiver after being chaptered for mental health issues. Won't hurt to try since the worst that can happen is they say no.
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PVT Donovan Graham
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LTC (Join to see) True, and time can help heal things. Plus regulations are prone to change
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Is there any way I can reclassify to a different MOS, instead of being discharged from Behavioral Health?
SSgt Christophe Murphy
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If I understand the scenario you are getting a 5-15 for a potentially pre-existing mental condition. If they are pushing you out for mental health issues you can't pause the proceedings to re-class to another MOS. That's not how it works
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MAJ Javier Rivera
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No commander on his/her mind will go over a behavioral health professional’s assessemt. And like LTC (Join to see) stated, your CoC initiated, staffed, and approved your separation. Somewhere along the process you should and the opportunity consult with JAG with regards of it. Didn’t you take advantage of it and inquire about all of your options, if any, to challenge the process?
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PVT Fire Control Specialist
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so, right now sir my Bh provider explained that’s the process that’s what will happened because of my depression. No paper work will start until I return to my unit after leave, as of right now.
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LTC Hardware Test Engineer
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bottom line: it becomes a liability issue. If BHP recommends a chapter and CoC goes against that recommendation and then something happens to you, their career is over.
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MAJ Javier Rivera
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PVT (Join to see),

Your provider is that, a medical officer. And his/her diagnosis is gold. Your CoC will act on it. If they go agains it, let’s say, keep you in service and (God forbids) something happens to you; shortly or eons later while in the service... is on them for keeping you.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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PVT (Join to see) - There is more to it than depression. I not only was diagnosed with depression, I also was treated, medicated, deployed (successfully), PCSed, held a Command Position (Rear Detachment NCOIC - which is a 1SG position in duties, if not in name or (quite) in scope), and retired (after 20+ years, not medically) with depression.

Yes, depression can be a very serious problem, but the depression, itself, is not the issue. How *you* cope with it and react to it, as well as whether you seek treatment, and how well you adapt to and comply with treatment are more important.

I realize it has been two months, and this is probably too late to help you out, but if you SERIOUSLY want to stay in, depression, in and of itself, will not prevent you from doing so - provided you are still willing and able to (healthily) Soldier On.
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SGM Bill Frazer
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Look, re-enlistment is a priviledge, not a right. Some where along the line your Co BC will initiate and sign off on your chapter. If you are having problems in one MOS, what makes you think there won't be problems in other MOS's?
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LTC Hardware Test Engineer
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do you mean chapter 5-17? It is unlikely that your battery or BN commander would write such a memo since they are the ones who initiated the chapter process.
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PVT Robert Zaks
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Maybe see JAG for advice. That’s not for me to answer my friend.
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PVT Robert Zaks
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Listen to the people below. It’s a whole different ballgame today when I was in. Good luck!
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PVT Robert L. Zaks
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You’ll have to speak to JAG
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