Is there such thing as "NCO Business?"

YES!!!! I have been following this thread trying to not get involved but... There most definitely is NCO business. Just as there is Officer business. Though the Officer is technically senior and of course in charge and responsible for the actions of subordinates (blah blah blah...) The actual duties of the Officer and his/her NCOs are not the same (often parallel but not the same).

Now first there is the idea, things should be handled at the lowest level first. Secondly if the Officer is going to be directly involved in every detail, why have an NCO? It is called micromanagement and a bit insulting to think that people have been to promoted to levels of leadership to then have their actual position questioned. Now I can see Officers saying "that's my point..." No it isn't. Your actual position and the NCO position are not the same. You have people put into those positions for a reason.

To put it in civilian context, Officers are management and NCOs are supervisory in nature. Officers say what needs to happen, NCO's make it happen. NCO's conduct ERs and all that, they ready their personnel, they give 'counseling'... When I was in Germany every Thursday was 'Sergeant's Time'... it wasn't 'Officer and NCO time'... but Sergeant's Time.

A good leader knows their boundaries, though they should be aware of what is going on... they should, must respect the authority of their NCO's. And delegate responsibility accordingly. If the NCO is not capable of performing then take appropriate measures. If you are an officer who feels you must be involved in every aspect (a micromanager) it is in fact counter productive and strips away the authority of your NCO corp.

1LT Lorenzo Llorente, I mean this with deep respect but as a 1st LT... and you still ask this question your NCO's must have been a bit weak when you were a 2nd Lt... and I am sincere l when I say mean that respectfully.

Sir

Hands down yes. NCOs and SNCOs should have the opportunity to take care of things without informing the Officers. There are plenty of things that we cna handle that don't need to be brought to the OIC or Head shed. Additionally the day to day actions of a platoon or shop should be left to the enlisted side. An OIC needs to give guidance to what they want and then let me get the results in the best way I know how.

There are things that are much easier to handle at a lower level, but an officer should have an idea of what's going on. An NCO should not be neutered by micromanagement of an officer, and an officer should not be mushroomed (kept in the dark and fed a bunch of BS) by the NCOs to the point where an incident occurs and the officer is blindsided by it. There has to be good communication and trust between officers and NCOs to allow each to be effective at their jobs and maintain the balance that allows a unit to function with one common voice that shows that the officer and the NCOs are on the same page.<br>

If NCOs took care of their troops to teach and guide as they used to, then there would indeed be NCO business Enlisted and Officers each took care of their own.

Absolutely, as long as the ncos are taking care of issues that fall within their responsibilities.

Yes, without a doubt, even in the private sector a frontline leader is responsible for certain aspects of operations while some aspects must be elevated to a 2nd or even 3rd level leader, having clarity on your responsibilities makes you a better leader

Yes. ANYTHING that excludes Officers and Warrant Officers. Usually dealing with discipline, team training or just getting stuff done without being micromanaged. This from a former NCO and current WO.

Yes...also leaders business should be kept separate and not confused with NCO business. A good example is training Soldiers. Officers are responsible for training being conducted (example would be commander) it's my responsibility to CONDUCT training. You tell me the cat needs to be skinned, don't tell me how to do it, and don't ask me how it was done. Chances are you don't care to know or want to know. As I told my Ma'am once...you have NCOs for plausible deniability.

CPT (Join to see) In my opinion, its called the NCO Creed, I served over 20 years in the Army being an NCO. It was always the health and welfare of my Soldiers and Mission Accomplishment.

History of the NCO Creed
The Creed has existed in different versions for a number of years. Long into their careers, sergeants remember reciting the NCO Creed during their induction into the NCO Corps. Nearly every NCO's office or home has a copy hanging on a wall. Some have intricate etchings in metal on a wooden plaque, or printed in fine calligraphy. But a quick glance at any copy of the NCO Creed and you will see no author's name at the bottom. The origin of the NCO Creed is a story of its own.

In 1973, the Army (and the noncommissioned officer corps) was in turmoil. Of the post-Vietnam developments in American military policy, the most influential in shaping the Army was the advent of the Modern Volunteer Army. With the inception of the Noncommissioned Officer Candidate Course, many young sergeants were not the skilled trainers of the past and were only trained to perform a specific job; squad leaders in Vietnam. The noncommissioned officer system was under development and the army was rewriting its Field Manual 22-100, Leadership, to set a road map for leaders to follow.

Of those working on the challenges at hand, one of the only NCO-pure instructional departments at the U.S Army Infantry School (USAIS) at Fort Benning, Georgia, GA was the NCO Subcommittee of the Command and Leadership Committee in the Leadership Department. Besides training soldiers at the Noncommissioned Officers Academy, these NCOs also developed instructional material and worked as part of the team developing model leadership programs of instruction.

During one brainstorming session, SFC Earle Brigham recalls writing three letters on a plain white sheet of paper... N-C-O. From those three letters they began to build the NCO Creed. The idea behind developing a creed was to give noncommissioned officers a "yardstick by which to measure themselves."

When it was ultimately approved, the NCO Creed was printed on the inside cover of the special texts issued to students attending the NCO courses at Fort Benning, beginning in 1974. Though the NCO Creed was submitted higher for approval and distribution Army-wide, it was not formalized by an official army publication until 11 years later.

Though it has been rewritten in different ways, the NCO Creed still begins its paragraphs with those three letters: N-C-O. It continues to guide and reinforce the values of each new generation of noncommissioned officers.

http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/army_board_study_guide_topics/nco_history/history-of-the-nco-creed.shtml

Yes, there is.
Best way to say it: Are officers raised by NCO's? No-but NCO's have been. Of course, most officers I served with that were combat MOS officers were really good and this was never a subject until I went to Walter Reed in 2004 and retired in 2006.