Posted on Jan 27, 2022
Is it legal for a Commander to require you to turn over your CAC to use a latrine?
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So my company has latrine’s that everyone uses, well the soldiers who are supposed to clean them don’t always clean them. So what my COC decided to do was lock the latrine’s and you have to turn over your CAC to get the key. Now I know that on the civilian side that is illegal, is that allowed in the military? I’ve never heard of a place doing something like this
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
However, it's considered a sensitive item and you aren't just supposed to give it up to just anyone. I definitely wouldn't just surrender it to the bathroom guard.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - if it's being done at the direction of the Commander, then that guard is the Commanders reporesentative for that duty, much like CQ or Staff Duty.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SFC Michael Hasbun - I'd be checking with legal if it was me. I'm not giving anyone my CAC unless I absolutely have to.
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...So, you have never turned your CAC over for plates at a range, or a short term borrowing of a tool from the maintenance shop? There are a few here that have already said it, but the CAC is not your property and must be surrendered if order so by command.
On a personal note, kind of a crappy thing to do... ha
On a personal note, kind of a crappy thing to do... ha
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
I've never turned my CAC for plates at a range or borrowing anything from anyone. I've never had to produce my CAC at any range since CACs have existed. And if I was going to get something from maintenance or supply, they're definitely going to have me sign a 2062.
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SPC (Join to see)
I’ve never turned my CAC in for anything besides a UA. As for maintenance I am in the maintenance platoon so if I need a tool I just grab it
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SPC (Join to see) , SFC Kelly Fuerhoff ... I guess experiences will differ... lol... I've never been on a range and not had to turn my CAC over for something... plates, demo, something. But it doesn't change that it is still not our property and can be requested by command at any time.
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100% legal. Your CAC is government owned and required to be surrendered by you any time ordered by your chain of command.
Also, not an uncommon practice just about everywhere when you borrow something short term. Holding onto your CAC as collateral is common for getting spare keys from Staff duty, lawn equipment, and all kinds of other things that people conveniently forget to return. I also don't think it's illegal to do on the civilian side either, but I'm not a lawyer.
Also, not an uncommon practice just about everywhere when you borrow something short term. Holding onto your CAC as collateral is common for getting spare keys from Staff duty, lawn equipment, and all kinds of other things that people conveniently forget to return. I also don't think it's illegal to do on the civilian side either, but I'm not a lawyer.
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