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BLUF, the U.S. Army is a Soldier's Army. It belongs to all of us. Now, commissioned officers have always had all the power. Having enlisted in 1999, I can tell you that the quality of our NCOs has been in constant decline. Most NCOs today don't bother to know the regs, march or correct Soldiers anymore. Is it possible that this has something to do with the way you feel? Maybe.
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Felipe, you need to stay away and stop listening to fools, the NCOs are the back bone and driving force of the US MILITARY, that means the US ARMY too!
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I believe the dynamic has changed perhaps more for the Army. Officers are always in charge. That's not changing any time soon. However when you take a look at the accessions today vs. 20-30 years ago, these officers are different. They, on average, are not as firmly grounded. They will do more out of fear. So if the NCO community is passive, power there is lost. Stepping up to demonstrate how well you got it knocks down the fear factor. There are far better qualified members here that can weigh in. I'd like to see what's been going on with the courage factor in the NCO community over the years.
In the Navy, the CPO community has a strong structural advantage and that is ships and subs. There is so much officers can't take care of or couldn't even if they wanted to. Duties and functions are more compartmentalized. That said, I believe there has been a weakening of the CPO community between my time from E-1 to O-6. Unfortunately a hunk of it has been self inflicted. There's a lower level of respect towards CPOs because more of them act like E-7s and not CHIEFS. I'd spend more time looking at a group of CPOs than JOs for my upcoming open billets. Breakage with JOs I can fix a lot easier than E-7/9s.
In the Navy, the CPO community has a strong structural advantage and that is ships and subs. There is so much officers can't take care of or couldn't even if they wanted to. Duties and functions are more compartmentalized. That said, I believe there has been a weakening of the CPO community between my time from E-1 to O-6. Unfortunately a hunk of it has been self inflicted. There's a lower level of respect towards CPOs because more of them act like E-7s and not CHIEFS. I'd spend more time looking at a group of CPOs than JOs for my upcoming open billets. Breakage with JOs I can fix a lot easier than E-7/9s.
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PFC Harold Best
I think that the thing that many are failing to see, is that the new model Armed forces is based on the Soviet Socialist model of conscript troops and a highly Politically reliable, communist Officers Corps. The NCO's must be weak as, coming from the middle class as they do they are not to be trusted. Thus ALL officers are political appointments. READ the Communist Manifesto, and EMEMBER who has been in power, at all levels of the bueracracy and purging and replacing line commanders and NCO's for 7 YEARS. These people have been putting elements in place for decades. To be an Officer requires a College degree and Colleges are now nothing but Communist indoctrination centers. AND now ALL student loans are by law, loaned by the Government.
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For me, the power doesn't affect much, even if i were an nco or officer, being a nco and officer meaning you been in service for a long time, and you here to help the enlisted. You already have power, To help guide the team/new enlisted and to discipline them.
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Officers have the power they just use it under the guidiance of an NCO. As NCO's we support officers and there orders base off of our experiences as leader. Most officiers do not have as much time in as there battle buddy NCO so they work together to accomplish the mission. At the end of the day the Officer is responsible for everything that happens but I would say the both have power just different types of power.
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SSG (Join to see)
Maybe on some things. I've seen with promotion packets, Soldiers use to go through chain of command. If leadership doesn't fee that a Soldier is ready, they get counseled then packet goes up at a later date. Same now, except packet can still go up. Someone higher up decides
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Suspended Profile
It's always been that way. Unless we do away with the distinction between enlistments and commissions entirely I don't see that changing.
This may be true in some cases. But we have more power and influence than we know or use. There is more than one way to get stuff done and to lead.
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Being an officer or NCO isn't about power, it's about leadership. That's what today's officers and NCO's are not getting.
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COL Charles Williams
We are not getting it? NCOs and Officers in the Army are both Leaders? They also have distinct roles and functions.
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