Posted on Jun 11, 2015
Isn't it time for police forces to focus less on force and more on real policing = serve and protect?
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Where did "Officer Friendly" go? What happened to police walking beats and getting to know their community? Where did the SWAT mentality/Bullies with Badges come from? Modern training teaches police to be extremely assertive, to yell like drill sergeants and bark orders to civilians, then force them to comply. Is that part of the problem> What's your solution?
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Edited 9 y ago
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I believe that it depends on the situation.
In my home town our police force is for the most part extremely friendly and respectful.
If you put these same guys in a big inner city where you do not know who is good and bad then yes they Re gonna be more aggressive because there lives depend on it.
In my home town our police force is for the most part extremely friendly and respectful.
If you put these same guys in a big inner city where you do not know who is good and bad then yes they Re gonna be more aggressive because there lives depend on it.
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Of course there are clear cases of abuse, and this isn't meant as a fix-all, but there is wisdom in this thinking. If we are looking to create a way for police to do their jobs better, lets not forget for our citizens to do better as well. I can't get over how few complaints I have with the authorities since I chose not to break the law. I've been pulled over, asked to breathe in a breathalizer thingy, provided a valid driver's license, registration, insurance, and was on my way. I never ran from the police, ergo I wasn't tackled and videotaped. I didn't sustain injuries because in a million years, I wouldn't run from the police. If I tried running from them in a vehicle, especially if it was stolen, I would expect to have my a$$ kicked over my head and eat some pavement. But that doesn't go through the mind of a legal driver going to the store for some huggies. I earn every penny I make legally, not by selling illegal substances and having illegal weapons ANYWHERE, let alone on my person. I grew up in some of the nastiest parts of Philadelphia, but said Sir and Maam, respected my elders, respected authority, and not once did I run from the cops. Every time I ever got into trouble, I deserved what I got, and have no one to blame but myself. Don't get me started on rioting, looting, assaults, larceny, racketeering, gangs, killings, etc, etc, etc. I love our cops, but also believe that they are to be held at the HIGHEST standards and given severe penalties for breaking the law. But I want them found guilty in a court of law, and not the court of public opinion.
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SFC Merino, agree--citizens (or anyone else occupying space) have a duty to behave responsibly. However, just as with a military rank, 'officials' have a HIGHER burden of responsibility to behave professionally, reasonably, rationally and not to abuse their authority or trust. It happens. It should never be tolerated. Like you, I grew up with respect for authority and have held authority. Agree with the court of public opinion/media for it has now become the battlefield of propaganda. With that comes more accountability which society ultimately needs, at every level, among every person. Otherwise society breaks down, and we end up dangerously close to every-person-for-selves...law and order means just that, and applies to police or there is no order, just law.
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CPT Ahmed Faried
not always that cut and dry. You can obey the law and still find yourself afoul of it depending on many factors.
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Exactly! Whatever happened to Officer Friendly?
Granted, society has become a bit more "violent" but that is no excuse for certain officers to shoot first and ask questions later.
While I respect the job they have to do, I am not going to bow down to someone just because they have a badge.
I've heard the old saying "If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to fear."
To that I say, "If I've done nothing wrong I should not be bothered!"
Granted, society has become a bit more "violent" but that is no excuse for certain officers to shoot first and ask questions later.
While I respect the job they have to do, I am not going to bow down to someone just because they have a badge.
I've heard the old saying "If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to fear."
To that I say, "If I've done nothing wrong I should not be bothered!"
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THIS is a difficult issue to address. YES. The police need to be out there "serving and protecting", community relations, etc.... the problem is that (from my perception) the people of America have gone polar.... overly passive or overly aggressive. The aggressive ones do not care about community relations, they are doing bad and will escalate quickly if they think they are going to get caught. Police need to be able to escalate as quickly as the bad guys or they will end up dead. A "Shoot first ask questions later" situation is not what is hoped for, however, in today's neighborhoods, it appears that in some cases, it is the reaction that is needed, unfortunately with some negative side effects (not every case is 100% right). Tough call.
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Serve and protect sometimes means shoot first and ask questions afterwards. But overall I would say bring back the "beat cop".
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PO2 Skip Kirkwood
We are not willing to pay what it would cost to bring back the beat cop. We expect 2 minute response to any call for service - that can't happen with today's cop/citizen ratio!
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Neither Law Enforcement nor Military are listed to put things in perspective …. YES both career paths can be dangerous … yet :
The 10 most dangerous jobs in America
PUBLISHED SAT, DEC 28 2019 10:31 AM EST
1. Logging workers
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 97.6
* Total fatal injuries: 74
* Most common fatal accidents: Contact with objects and equipment
* Total non-fatal injuries: 1,040
* Median annual wage: $40,650
* Number of workers: 53,600
2. Fishers and related fishing workers
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 77.4
* Total fatal injuries: 30
* Most common fatal accidents: Transportation incidents
* Total non-fatal injuries: N/A
* Median annual wage: $28,310
* Number of workers: 520
3. Aircraft pilots and flight engineers
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 58.9
* Total fatal injuries: 70
* Most common fatal accidents: Transportation incidents
* Total non-fatal injuries: 490
* Median annual wage: $137,330
* Number of workers: 84,070
4. Roofers
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 51.5
* Total fatal injuries: 96
* Most common fatal accidents: falls, slips, and trips
* Total non-fatal injuries: 2,060
* Median annual wage: $39,970
* Number of workers: 160,600
5. Refuse and recyclable materials collectors
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 44.3
* Total fatal injuries: 37
* Most common fatal accidents: Transportation incidents
* Total non-fatal injuries: 1,490
* Median annual wage: $36,190
* Number of workers: 115,130
6. Driver/sales workers and truck drivers
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 26
* Total fatal injuries: 966
* Most common fatal accidents: Transportation incidents
* Total non-fatal injuries: 78,520
* Median annual wage: $24,700
* Number of workers: 414,860
7. Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural workers
* Fatal injuries per full-time equivalent 100,000 workers: 24.7
* Total fatal injuries: 257
* Most common fatal accidents: transportation incidents
* Total non-fatal injuries: 280
* Median annual wage: $24,620
* Number of workers: 876,300
8. Structural Iron and Steel workers
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 23.6
* Total injuries: 15
* Most common fatal accidents: Falls, slips, trips
* Total non-fatal injuries: 800
* Median annual wage: $52,770
* Number of workers: 98,600
9. First-line supervisors of construction trades and extraction workers
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 21
* Total fatal injuries: 144
* Most common fatal accidents: transportation incidents
* Total non-fatal injuries: 5,390
* Median annual wage: $65,230
* Number of workers: 598,210
10. First-line supervisors of landscaping, lawn service, and groundskeeping workers
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 20.2
* Total fatal injuries: 142
* Most common fatal accidents: transportation incidents
* Total non-fatal injuries: 1,990
* Median annual wage: $47,030
* Number of workers: 100,320
Source : https://www.google.com/amp/s/http://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/12/27/the-10-most-dangerous-jobs-in-america-according-to-bls-data.html
The 10 most dangerous jobs in America
PUBLISHED SAT, DEC 28 2019 10:31 AM EST
1. Logging workers
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 97.6
* Total fatal injuries: 74
* Most common fatal accidents: Contact with objects and equipment
* Total non-fatal injuries: 1,040
* Median annual wage: $40,650
* Number of workers: 53,600
2. Fishers and related fishing workers
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 77.4
* Total fatal injuries: 30
* Most common fatal accidents: Transportation incidents
* Total non-fatal injuries: N/A
* Median annual wage: $28,310
* Number of workers: 520
3. Aircraft pilots and flight engineers
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 58.9
* Total fatal injuries: 70
* Most common fatal accidents: Transportation incidents
* Total non-fatal injuries: 490
* Median annual wage: $137,330
* Number of workers: 84,070
4. Roofers
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 51.5
* Total fatal injuries: 96
* Most common fatal accidents: falls, slips, and trips
* Total non-fatal injuries: 2,060
* Median annual wage: $39,970
* Number of workers: 160,600
5. Refuse and recyclable materials collectors
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 44.3
* Total fatal injuries: 37
* Most common fatal accidents: Transportation incidents
* Total non-fatal injuries: 1,490
* Median annual wage: $36,190
* Number of workers: 115,130
6. Driver/sales workers and truck drivers
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 26
* Total fatal injuries: 966
* Most common fatal accidents: Transportation incidents
* Total non-fatal injuries: 78,520
* Median annual wage: $24,700
* Number of workers: 414,860
7. Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural workers
* Fatal injuries per full-time equivalent 100,000 workers: 24.7
* Total fatal injuries: 257
* Most common fatal accidents: transportation incidents
* Total non-fatal injuries: 280
* Median annual wage: $24,620
* Number of workers: 876,300
8. Structural Iron and Steel workers
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 23.6
* Total injuries: 15
* Most common fatal accidents: Falls, slips, trips
* Total non-fatal injuries: 800
* Median annual wage: $52,770
* Number of workers: 98,600
9. First-line supervisors of construction trades and extraction workers
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 21
* Total fatal injuries: 144
* Most common fatal accidents: transportation incidents
* Total non-fatal injuries: 5,390
* Median annual wage: $65,230
* Number of workers: 598,210
10. First-line supervisors of landscaping, lawn service, and groundskeeping workers
* Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 20.2
* Total fatal injuries: 142
* Most common fatal accidents: transportation incidents
* Total non-fatal injuries: 1,990
* Median annual wage: $47,030
* Number of workers: 100,320
Source : https://www.google.com/amp/s/http://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/12/27/the-10-most-dangerous-jobs-in-america-according-to-bls-data.html
The 10 most dangerous jobs in America
Here's a look at the 10 most dangerous jobs in America, based on data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The most common workplace deaths were related to transportation
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Blue Life Matters Law’s :
Policing in America is based on old slave catching laws & they wrote further laws like Qualified Immunity & the Protect & Serve Act of 2018 (Blue Lives Matter” bill).
“The Protect and Serve Act would allow anyone who knowingly causes serious bodily injury to a law enforcement officer to be imprisoned up to 10 years. And it creates even harsher penalties for other criminal acts against police: If a police officer were kidnapped, killed, or faced a threat on their life, then the perpetrator could get a much longer sentence, including potentially life in prison.”
“Qualified immunity is designed to protect all but the plainly incompetent or those who knowingly violate the law. Law enforcement officers are entitled to qualified immunity when their actions do not violate a clearly established statutory or constitutional right.”
For anyone convicted of a capital felony, the law requires a separate sentencing hearing before a judge or jury to weigh mitigating and aggravating factors. The judge or jury cannot impose the death penalty and must sentence the person to life imprisonment without the possibility of release if the mitigating factors outweigh or are of equal weight to the aggravating factors or if any of four automatic bars to the death penalty exist.”
There’s no death penalty, no capital punishment for murdering a military person. {NONE} There is no “Protect and Serve Act” covering soldiers, Who protect and serve ALL Americans citizens.... not a select community, soldiers lives are considered less valuable than police officers who lives the soldiers protect domestically and on foreign soil.
Yet, those police officers ARE NOT HELD to a higher standard for their actions, we soldiers again fall under both civil and the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) for our actions. In life threatening situations we don’t just pull the trigger and say we feared for our lives.
Let’s put that in perspective for those that like to argue how they have a dangerous job and risk it saving lives.
If an Active Duty soldier is murder by a civilian, a fellow soldier or a cop in uniform or out of, it’s not viewed as a HATE CRIME.... why not?!? They risk their lives protecting the country including police officers .... I mean they are on duty 24/7/365 right???
Again, they new make laws....
[NO ONE LIFE IS MORE VALUABLE THAN ANOTHER BECAUSE OF A JOB POSITION/UNIFORM]. WTF is wrong with you people, seriously???
#Injustice
#Policebrutality
#endqualifiedimmunity
#defundthepolice
#endracism
#endsystematicracism
#Humanity
*** this a repost from myself, because people are tooooo comfortable with the status quo ***
Policing in America is based on old slave catching laws & they wrote further laws like Qualified Immunity & the Protect & Serve Act of 2018 (Blue Lives Matter” bill).
“The Protect and Serve Act would allow anyone who knowingly causes serious bodily injury to a law enforcement officer to be imprisoned up to 10 years. And it creates even harsher penalties for other criminal acts against police: If a police officer were kidnapped, killed, or faced a threat on their life, then the perpetrator could get a much longer sentence, including potentially life in prison.”
“Qualified immunity is designed to protect all but the plainly incompetent or those who knowingly violate the law. Law enforcement officers are entitled to qualified immunity when their actions do not violate a clearly established statutory or constitutional right.”
For anyone convicted of a capital felony, the law requires a separate sentencing hearing before a judge or jury to weigh mitigating and aggravating factors. The judge or jury cannot impose the death penalty and must sentence the person to life imprisonment without the possibility of release if the mitigating factors outweigh or are of equal weight to the aggravating factors or if any of four automatic bars to the death penalty exist.”
There’s no death penalty, no capital punishment for murdering a military person. {NONE} There is no “Protect and Serve Act” covering soldiers, Who protect and serve ALL Americans citizens.... not a select community, soldiers lives are considered less valuable than police officers who lives the soldiers protect domestically and on foreign soil.
Yet, those police officers ARE NOT HELD to a higher standard for their actions, we soldiers again fall under both civil and the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) for our actions. In life threatening situations we don’t just pull the trigger and say we feared for our lives.
Let’s put that in perspective for those that like to argue how they have a dangerous job and risk it saving lives.
If an Active Duty soldier is murder by a civilian, a fellow soldier or a cop in uniform or out of, it’s not viewed as a HATE CRIME.... why not?!? They risk their lives protecting the country including police officers .... I mean they are on duty 24/7/365 right???
Again, they new make laws....
[NO ONE LIFE IS MORE VALUABLE THAN ANOTHER BECAUSE OF A JOB POSITION/UNIFORM]. WTF is wrong with you people, seriously???
#Injustice
#Policebrutality
#endqualifiedimmunity
#defundthepolice
#endracism
#endsystematicracism
#Humanity
*** this a repost from myself, because people are tooooo comfortable with the status quo ***
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Cop Shoots & Kills Man ALREADY In Custody
A Utah police officer shot and killed a man inside the police department - it was his third shooting. Cenk Uygur, Jackson White, and Bridget Todd discuss on ...
He should NOT be dead.
https://youtu.be/eGw4d6_lpmk
“Although the Supreme Court has addressed the circumstances in which police are justified in using deadly force, the Court has not considered the obligation of police officers to render aid to those whom they have shot or injured.”
https://kb.osu.edu/bitstream/handle/1811/92251/1/OSJCL_V18N1_391.pdf
*let that sink in*
*** this a repost from myself, because ya are tooooo comfortable with the status quo ***
https://youtu.be/eGw4d6_lpmk
“Although the Supreme Court has addressed the circumstances in which police are justified in using deadly force, the Court has not considered the obligation of police officers to render aid to those whom they have shot or injured.”
https://kb.osu.edu/bitstream/handle/1811/92251/1/OSJCL_V18N1_391.pdf
*let that sink in*
*** this a repost from myself, because ya are tooooo comfortable with the status quo ***
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Ex Cop Speaking Out About Racism In The Police Force.
It takes real character to stand up for what is right and humane.
Only job in society that some people justify abuse & murder …. Because someone else who is JUST another human being wears a badge & uniform and they don’t like your response verbally.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PoyKuwFwsQ0&feature=share
It’s a culture.
*** this a repost from myself, because people are tooooo comfortable with the status quo ***
“I will not apologize for telling the FACTS, in a world that worship the lies”.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PoyKuwFwsQ0&feature=share
It’s a culture.
*** this a repost from myself, because people are tooooo comfortable with the status quo ***
“I will not apologize for telling the FACTS, in a world that worship the lies”.
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A Conversation With Police on Race | Op-Docs
In this short documentary, former officers share their thoughts on policing and race in America.Subscribe on YouTube:http://bit.ly/U8Ys7nIn the previous yea...
PREPARING FOR A CONVERSATION ABOUT POLICING AND RACIAL INJUSTICE :
https://youtu.be/5Funraox29U
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SOURCE :
https://www.facinghistory.org/educator-resources/current-events/policing-legacy-racial-injustice/preparing-conversation-about-policing-and-racial-injustice
*** this a repost from myself, because people are tooooo comfortable with the status quo ***
“I will not apologize for telling the FACTS, in a world that worship the lies”.
https://youtu.be/5Funraox29U
————-
SOURCE :
https://www.facinghistory.org/educator-resources/current-events/policing-legacy-racial-injustice/preparing-conversation-about-policing-and-racial-injustice
*** this a repost from myself, because people are tooooo comfortable with the status quo ***
“I will not apologize for telling the FACTS, in a world that worship the lies”.
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