Posted on Jul 30, 2014
Jesse Ventura wins case against Chris Kyle estate
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I'm surprised that I haven't seen discussion about this on RP yet. But for those who haven't heard about it yet, former non-SEAL, professional wrestler, Minnesota Governor and current conspiracy theorist Jesse Ventura has won his case against the estate of SEAL sniper Chris Kyle. The judge awarded him $500,000 for defamation and $1.3 million for unjust enrichment. In his book, Kyle claims to have knocked out an individual, later revealed to be Ventura, for saying that the SEALs deserved to have lost a few in Iraq. Whilst at a bar where the wake for a fallen SEAL was taking place.
Ventura loves claiming that he was a SEAL, even though SEALs were not around in his time. He's definitely just burned any bridge he had to current and former operators. I've always thought of him as a nut bag, but now he's just pure scum. What sayest you?
http://news.yahoo.com/jury-awards-ventura-1-8m-defamation-case-182537224.html
Ventura loves claiming that he was a SEAL, even though SEALs were not around in his time. He's definitely just burned any bridge he had to current and former operators. I've always thought of him as a nut bag, but now he's just pure scum. What sayest you?
http://news.yahoo.com/jury-awards-ventura-1-8m-defamation-case-182537224.html
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As I said in a facebook post: I am completely disgusted with him. It's too bad that he has to stoop to such a scum sucking level that he would attack Chris' estate (Wife and Kids) because he was butt hurt.
He exhibits no values or virtues of a SEAL (Honored Men!) and should just shut his PIEHOLE!
My .02
He exhibits no values or virtues of a SEAL (Honored Men!) and should just shut his PIEHOLE!
My .02
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It's hard to deny that wrestling is entertaining. It certainly appeals to a large audience much as did vaudeville. However, it was based on athletes acting in a farce. Jesse seems to have lost sight of the fact that he is not longer performing on that stage and may be protecting his image from that arena rather than other arenas in which he has performed.
Was there a righteous basis for his claim that Kyle's widow is now paying? Probably. But, righteousness doesn't always equate with decency, does it?
Was there a righteous basis for his claim that Kyle's widow is now paying? Probably. But, righteousness doesn't always equate with decency, does it?
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Has anyone even read what the lawsuit was even about or details about the altercation that sparked the passage in the book?
Does anyone even know that the suit was filed in 2012 and prior to the suit Ventura simply asked for a refraction and an apology.
Just because of the man's honorable service doesn't make everything he did right.
He should not have named Jesse Ventura in his television interviews (to build publicity). PERIOD.
We complain about celebrities getting off easy when it comes to legal proceedings, then when one of our own could possibly be in the wrong, we allow the double standard.
Does anyone even know that the suit was filed in 2012 and prior to the suit Ventura simply asked for a refraction and an apology.
Just because of the man's honorable service doesn't make everything he did right.
He should not have named Jesse Ventura in his television interviews (to build publicity). PERIOD.
We complain about celebrities getting off easy when it comes to legal proceedings, then when one of our own could possibly be in the wrong, we allow the double standard.
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So because Ventura is "well off" and a "conspiracy theorist" then it is okay to defame someone's name? This is what I was talking about concerning double standards in America.
When it comes down to it, witnesses on both sides were heard, and somebody won. There was a reason that side won.
When it comes down to it, witnesses on both sides were heard, and somebody won. There was a reason that side won.
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When you're an asshole that no one likes already, then yes there is a double standard. I admit that Kyle should have never named Ventura in interviews. But if he wants to let the information out, he could have had others do so and then there's no case.
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As a Governor he was actually pretty popular and was even on radars for possible POTUS ballots.
I'm all about the facts and fact is, Mr. Kyle was in the wrong regardless of the stature of either party. You are correct, that would be a way to get information out.
I'm all about the facts and fact is, Mr. Kyle was in the wrong regardless of the stature of either party. You are correct, that would be a way to get information out.
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He still is on the ballot for POTUS, however this case will probably have some negative effects. Ventura-Stern 2016!
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Never was a big fan of Jesse Ventura and his Conspiracy Garbage show but I'm sure not jumping on the FOX "Jesse robbing a Veterans Widow" Bandwagon either. When the suit was filed the Sailor that Defamed him was still alive. So this is just pure unadulterated propaganda. As a Sailor I am quite familiar with that fact that Jesse is an "Honorary" Seal and he was from a different part of the community at the time. As far as the merits of the suit. In criminal case guilt has to be assessed "Beyond a Reasonable Doubt" in civil matter it is a "Preponderance of Evidence" so it a Appears that the court determined that by 51 percent or more that Jesse was slandered. While I know that FOX has won several court battles that protects their "Right to Lie" under the 1st Amendment. It doesn't work for the rest of us. You lie and slander some one you could pay for it in the end. As far as the Poor Broke Grieving Widow. Not so much. How much has this book made? She gets to split the Profits with Jesse so she won't be quite so rich but I don't see here in the poor house either and I strongly suspect that the Publisher will make sure she is still well taken care of.
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Emotional rhetoric. No need to bring up Fox News, even though you hate them. Just another way to instigate without facts. Fox News has NOTHING to do with Ventura's lawsuit. If you truly think that then..well.. The funny thing is you deceptively, dishonestly and conveniently leave out that CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC also ALL lie. ALL of these so called news media pander to emotionality. NONE are unbiased.
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CPL Jesse Still, if he is WRONG, then he is WRONG. I would still take a bullet for him but would not defend someone who is in the wrong.
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As a retiree and a "patriot" I am seeing a fundamental change in our society, though slow it seems our society as a whole has come to a tipping point on weather our Country will continue in decline or if our Country has had enough of the Liberal / progressive politics that has drug it down to the point where a well known person will sue the wife of a dead American Hero for something he says was in a book that was never actually published in the book. How did he win? I have no clue I was not in the courtroom but the fact remains that he did but a decision like that will undoubtedly make him even less marketable than he ever was. It seems all of a sudden we are seeing a shift in America, Congress is acting on things didn't before like the BenGHazi hearings where Trey Gowdy isn't taking Crap from anyone. Like the Supreme Court overturning things that the Administration has taken for granted, people being tired of being afraid and letting their children actually go more than a block away to play. Actual Outrage of individuals who once stood silent as illegal Immigration ran rampant and nothing was done, now those folks are standing strong and seeing that busloads of illegals are not allowed to stop in "their towns". I think the days of parents saying things like "I'm afraid to let my child go out and play because there are too many crazies in our society" is starting to turn, people are actually seeing that in order to create order you have to face that fear and overcome it. Don't wait till someone else does something or nothing will ever get done. My heart bleeds for the family to have to deal with not only the death of their loved one but then to turn around and be held responsible for something they weren't even a part of. Jesse will become more of a laughing stock along with all the others out there. Heck I'm even seeing the once steadfast Liberal celebs starting to question the administration. I believe the tide is turning, but just like gaining weight, it's easy to pack the pounds on but it will take awhile to shed those UNWANTED pounds. Give it time but I Think America is starting to wake up.
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SFC (Join to see) DOD/DON would only vet the book to ensure it did not reveal any secrets, other than that the book stands on it's own merits.
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How is it even defamation to state, as CPO Kyle did, that the person he decked was "later identified as Jesse Ventura"??
From where I stand, that is just a matter of CPO Kyle relaying something he had been told...am I wrong?
From where I stand, that is just a matter of CPO Kyle relaying something he had been told...am I wrong?
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No, Kyle himself later identified the man as Ventura during interviews. I believe in the book he is simply called a/the scruffy man or something to the effect.
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He was a Navy frogman a member of the under water demolition team they where the forerunners to the Seals and they are considered Seals now. He also was suing Kyle before he was killed. Since he won the case I must assume the evidence was in his favor. He also served six years in the Navy and is a former Governor. I agree that he is a nut job but the facts say he was slandered so if I was suing someone who did me wrong that was famous and they where killed I should just drop it I think not. I believe both parties where wrong but we will never know the real truth and both served their country honorably during a time of war in war zones.
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Not to come to Jesse's defense, since I'm not really a fan and think he's kind of out there on some issues; however, there have been allegations of Chris Kyle saying things that don't hold water; such as that he set up a sniper position on the roof of the Superdome during Hurricane Katrina and killed a bunch of civilians that he spotted carrying firearms. If he actually said it and it was true, that would make him a murderer; if he actually said it and it wasn't true, that would make him a liar.
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