Posted on Nov 23, 2021
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For people subjected to weekly Covid-19 testing for being unvaccinated. Is it legally right due to the fact of being able to deny aid/treatment? Any knowledge on this subject would be greatly appreciated.
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The order to test came from the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of the Army at the Pentagon. Why would you think this hasn't already been reviewed by a room full of lawyers before the order was published?

By the time an order coming from the Pentagon is published, a small army of lawyers have conducted a legal review on the order and the second and third tier effects. If it doesn't pass the legal review it doesn't get published
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I'm just curious. Its more or less for others than myself. I also like to just be informed. I man once said "If you don't question everything, you won't know anything."
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SGM Jeff Mccloud
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SPC (Join to see) - If you do question everything, you won't have time to do anything.

"Is it legal...?" is one of the top five questions on RP.
And almost all of them boil down to someone wondering if "not convenient" or "not preferred" equates to "illegal".
Like SFC (Join to see) said, if the SECDEF or SECARMY signed it, a whole conference room full of lawyers, from real law schools not the Barracks College of Law, reviewed it, and it's legal.
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SSG Bill McCoy
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LCpl Benji Smith - I agree ... many fools all through D.C. including the Pentagao. Nevertheless, it's still a lawful order @ SPC (Join to see).
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That's a straight up lie, if you think that's true you still believe in the the tooth fairy.
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If you have been ordered to be tested youvwill get tested. Thats a fact of military life. And if they want you tested every single day you will get tested every single day. If you don't like it fine. McDonalds is hiring.
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SSG (Join to see) I highly doubt the image you think of close to the "type of soldier I am". I have busted my ass for my battery and I still do even with being discharged. I'm still a one of the top performers in my battery. Just because I pointed out a childish remark from a NCO doesn't make me a bad soldier. I can promise you that you're reading from the wrong book. When I have SSGs coming to me for help because they don't know something about their job or vehicle, I think I'm doing pretty good.
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SPC (Join to see) - I could care less about what you think. When you believe that you are right and NCO's are childish, you are the one causing the issues. You made a comment that questions another NCOs ability, that instantly make myself and other NCOs question your ability.
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LCpl Benji Smith Remember that Oath you took. You swore to follow the orders of the President of the US and the officers appointed over you. So that means if your cmdr says off you go to the clinic for a shot then off you go to get your shot. Refuse the order then suffer the consequences of disobeying an order. This is not an issue up for discussion. Ifcany member of the military can't fulfill the Oathbthey took then its time fir that person to hit the road.
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LTC John Wilson
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Only if the order to test is LAWFUL.
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Here’s the cool thing about orders. They’re presumed to be legal and have a military purpose. Its on you to prove they aren’t.

Since you tagged this as career advice, I’d advise if you want to have a career you comply with the lawful orders of the officers appointed over you.

Take the shot, take the test, or take a hike
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I didn't tag carrer advice. I tagged jag and a few other but I guess it didn't like that and determined career advice
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LT David Hodges
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SPC (Join to see) - regardless, the answer is the same.
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Is it legal for the military to require weekly Covid-19 testing for unvaccinated?
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The military has to maintain readiness by making sure that the Virus does not play havoc with our military readiness. Are you saying that you refuse the vaccine but do not want to be weekly tested? What do you mean when you say "Is it legally right due to the fact of being able to deny aid/treatment?"
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PO1 Jamie Springman Thank you for the response sir.
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Sgt (Join to see) Good morning sir, regarding readiness wouldnt make sense to test all service and dod members weekly due to still contacting and spreading the virus? Even the CDC has said it does not prevent the disease, so wouldn't our forces still be able to contract and spread the virus? If testing is to man readiness and health all service members and dod would need to be tested
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UNLESS ITS OVERWRITTEN BUY A DOD POLICYSPC (Join to see)
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SFC (Verify To See) Soldiers in my brigade and a couple of other units. I'm fine with tests. I also like to know so I guess its for me as well but not a big factor.
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TSgt James Potter
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I retired in 2010. I did not know we had any say so on what shots we got. I was more worried about the Anthrax series of shots than I am about Covid-19 shots and booster.
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CW3 Charles Morris
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This REALLY isn't about vaccinations or even testing, it's about the politicization of the Coronavirus pandemic.

If it were any of the other vaccinations you've received, you'd stand in line and be inoculated, but not with the Coronavirus. Ask yourself why? It's because the shot been turned into a political football.

For Christ sake, even among the biggest naysayers, former President Trump, has been vaccinated.
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SMSgt Bob W.
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I'll give you the answer you want. NO. With that being said, my opinion isn't worth the time it took me to type this answer. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES. Get the shot.
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LTC Linda Harkness
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What the Frick is the problem of simply getting the VACCINATIONS AND BOOSTER? What a double duh this concept is???
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SPC Steve Bryant
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When I first got in, we were drug tested every Thursday. If the Army has the right to test you weekly for drugs that only affect SMs, why wouldn't they test weekly to prevent spread of COVID to a whole team. Frankly, I didn't think vaccines were optional while in. Must be nice.
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Cpl Kathleen Phippard
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Yes it's legal. It's an order. You didn't get vaccinated and you're still in. Hmm
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