Posted on Jul 2, 2020
Let’s keep this respectful. Do you agree with the Marine Corps Commandant banning Confederate flags on base?
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Personally I think the only two flags that should be on any USMC base are the Stars and Stripes and the Marine Corps flag anyway.
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I personally don't care. The sight of the flag does not bother me. I guess that is the "white privilege" in me. But, banning the Stars and Bars because it's offensive....so be it. The caveat is that if the Confederate Flag is considered offensive, then remove any flag and/or Standard that is considered offensive. The rub is that if someone is LOOKING for something offensive, they will always find it. In what ever twisted sense they see something as offensive. You can't tell me that someone out there doesn't find the Pride Flag offensive. Or someone not finding a flag of Malcolm X offensive.
The Germans had outlawed anything Nazi. Pins, uniforms, flags, etc.. But guess what, they can still be found. You can outlaw offensive/racist stuff all day long....but you can still find those things. Plus, outlawing the items does not erase the memories.
If the military really wants to be an EO friendly environment....then ban it all except the State Flag, the US Flag, and the Branch Colors/Standards. Again, that still won't erase the memories. That won't erase the history.
The Germans had outlawed anything Nazi. Pins, uniforms, flags, etc.. But guess what, they can still be found. You can outlaw offensive/racist stuff all day long....but you can still find those things. Plus, outlawing the items does not erase the memories.
If the military really wants to be an EO friendly environment....then ban it all except the State Flag, the US Flag, and the Branch Colors/Standards. Again, that still won't erase the memories. That won't erase the history.
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A1C Chris Pointer - What I am saying is that it is possible that someone could be offended by the Pride Flag. And if someone is offended by it, then by logic....they could fight to have it removed.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
No not a "mic drop." ...
It isn't banned because it's "offensive." It's because of what it stands for and the use of it by white supremacists to intimidate people of color.
No one says erase history. Banning it doesn't erase anything. At all. It has NO place in the United States military. There is no longer a Confederacy. It should not be anyone's "heritage." It's completely different than a Pride flag - a pride flag doesn't incite hatred and bigotry and racism. It only "offends" homophobig bigots. What's a Malcom X flag?
I will agree that yes your white privilege is key to your perception - not with quotes either. White privilege is real. I, as a Caucasian woman, fully understand my skin color allows me an advantage it doesn't allow women of color.
It isn't banned because it's "offensive." It's because of what it stands for and the use of it by white supremacists to intimidate people of color.
No one says erase history. Banning it doesn't erase anything. At all. It has NO place in the United States military. There is no longer a Confederacy. It should not be anyone's "heritage." It's completely different than a Pride flag - a pride flag doesn't incite hatred and bigotry and racism. It only "offends" homophobig bigots. What's a Malcom X flag?
I will agree that yes your white privilege is key to your perception - not with quotes either. White privilege is real. I, as a Caucasian woman, fully understand my skin color allows me an advantage it doesn't allow women of color.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - My quoted comment was meant as a joke/sarcasm. Again, what I am saying is that there is the possibility. I have no white privilege. I was using them as an example.
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I think it’s one of the more forward thinking moves of the USMC. Not because I have any opinion on it - I don’t. But, I know that the writing is on the wall and that 20 years from now Congress will have banned them on federal property, or else they will be a huge political hot button. Neither of those is something a military commander wants to be in the middle of.
I’m also not surprised because of all the branches, the USMC is the best at branding and defending their trademark. For the Marine Corps propaganda machine if you aren’t helping, you’re hurting, especially if it possibly causes any division amongst the troops.
I’m also not surprised because of all the branches, the USMC is the best at branding and defending their trademark. For the Marine Corps propaganda machine if you aren’t helping, you’re hurting, especially if it possibly causes any division amongst the troops.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
Confederate Flags have always annoyed me, more because of the Southern Revisionist history that they represent than anything else. Yes, I hate Gone with the Wind too.
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Look, I was born in South- all my folks fought for the Union, our new family home in TN was taken illegally be the Union. I have researched for years on the hows and why's and KNOW that slavery was Not the bottom line for the war. Respect the hard decisions folks made. Bottom Line- Commanders can ban many things, they want to ban this one, that is their right, troops must go along with it. Have never been happy with idiots using it or the KKK to hide their ignorance behind it.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
Slavery was 100% the reason why they seceded. It's literally in EVERY document from the Confederate federal government on down. For you to say you've "researched" for years is an obvious fallacy. You obviously didn't research anything outside revisionist history.
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SGM Bill Frazer
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff Kelly, rezearch the reason behibd the 1858 compromise, the Federal tariffs of 1859- 1861. How the Representatives of the House of Representatives are approait
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SGM Bill Frazer
SGM Bill Frazer apportioned. Slavelry my ass, you actuallt think dirt farmers from around the South, who barely kept their families gave a damn about Slavery? Thousands, ten of thousands fought for as long as they could and it samn sure wasn't slaves. Hell they had a hard time hiring hands during harvest, and the lived in simple frame houses, not Mansions.
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