Posted on Jul 7, 2015
SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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Saw this in the local paper .. was thinking "Great .. some good vet press" and then I started looking at the rack. I don't have that much experience with WW2 / Korea ribbons, but does this look kosher? What's the ribbon with the 4 stars?

http://dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1086&ArticleID=147322

He was eager to serve his country.

At only 14 years old, Ron Johnson lied about his age and enlisted with the Navy to fight the Japanese.

The legal age to join the military back then was 17 or 16 with parental consent. It was not uncommon, however, for young men to fib their way in, especially with the amount of anger Americans had right after the attack on Pearl Harbor, according to Johnson.

"Some were caught and sent to Leavenworth (a United States Disciplinary Barracks in Kansas)," Johnson said.

Fortunately for Johnson, he got away with it.

"I think it was because I was in combat all of the time and I was serving a purpose in combat and they didn't want to find out that I was only 14 years old," Johnson said.

Part of the reason may have also been that he was raised as an orphan in a Catholic convent, so when he used a fake name (Ronny Frascona) when enlisting, his records weren't the easiest to trace.

Johnson served from February 1942 as a gunner and dive bomber until the end of the war in August 1945.

He and his pilot never had to eject from their plane, but they did crash into the ocean five times (three of which were due to running out of gas).

"At that time of the war, which was the beginning, we often went beyond the call of duty or the intelligence or our brains," Johnson said.

One instance that made a significant impression on Johnson was when he rode on top of his plane rather than in it during a rescue mission.

When he was on the USS North Carolina, a fighter pilot had been shot down in the Bay of Truk and needed rescuing because he was wounded and within range of Japanese fire.

Johnson's pilot, Mr. Mead, devised a plan that put Johnson in great danger. Johnson agreed nonetheless.

Mead landed in the bay just outside the range of fire. Johnson tied a long rope around his waist. Mead tied the other end to the strut of the pontoon and Johnson swam to the wounded pilot. Once he reached the pilot, Mead dragged them to safety.

There was also the matter of getting all of them back on the USS Carolina in one piece. The King Fisher pontoon had only enough room for two people, a gunner and a pilot. Mead had to fly and the wounded pilot took the gunner's seat.

"My question was ... where are you going to put me?" Johnson recalls asking Mead.

Mead responded: "You're going to straddle the strut and I'm going to tie your hands and feet around it and your back is going to be to the propeller," Johnson said.

"What if we don't get off the ground and we crash?" Johnson continued.

"He said, 'Well, then you're dead,'" Johnson said.

"I said [sarcastically], 'Thanks a lot sir, I really agree with your plan here.'"

It was risky, but they managed to get into the air and make it back to the USS North Carolina safely.

After the war, Johnson continued to serve in the Navy from 1945 to 1950 as a boxer. Out of his 116 fights, he lost only once as an amateur and once professionally.

In May 1950, he re-enlisted with the airborne to fight in the Korean War that began in June 1950. He spent three years there leading a platoon.

Despite all of the action he saw, Johnson was only wounded once. Shrapnel from an exploding suicide plane in Okinawa struck him. However, he recovered quickly.

"The injuries weren't debilitating at all," Johnson said.

Johnson, 83, now lives with his wife, Caroline, in Cordes Lakes.

He used to frequently volunteer for organizations in his area before he went blind three years ago. Yet even today, he still helps out the community as much as he can with his fellow wartime veterans in the American Legion Post 122.
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Why are we trying to tear this guy apart?
He's 88 years old.....he told a wild ass story to a newspaper guy…..which btw I’d be more interested in having validated than his ribbon rack…..it's a great story….i’m sure it has the embellishments that come with time and a million telling but man how great would it be to find out that it happen as he said…tied to a plane…..awesome.
Is he trying to defraud the government or something....am I missing something?
Getting sick of every time an old guy has his picture taken with military stuff on it people go on the attack and try to prove something wrong…..makes me never want to wear my ribbons or uniform again….I mean God forbid if 50 plus year after I got out I put one on backwards, bought one that looks close to what I remember, or can’t find a discontinued uniform items so I go with my next best guess, or my memory fails and I say the wrong unit number or can’t remember it.
Our core values were true back then as they are today...Integrity first.......why can we not just be happy that a prior military guy is getting recognized and assume that he has integrity until he gives us a reason to doubt it.
Hell I don’t even want to post pictures of my Dad in uniform outside of the family (and I know he was in I went to his retirement ceremony) for the same reason….I don’t want someone trying to tear his uniform apart and disgrace his name for no reason.
Don’t get me wrong I know there are imposters out there…..but unless someone is trying to get personal gain, disability, etc….we don’t need to treat ever old veteran like a lying scumbag…….there has got to be better things a collective of people such as us can apply our “super powers” to that will make a difference in the world.
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My sentiments exactly, MSgt and SSgt. I've been a VFW and AL post commander in which the overwhelming majority of members are/were from WWII and Korea. Most of the members of the funeral Honor Guards, in my posts and countless others I've been around over the years, are these same aged old men. In the firing position, those heavy M1 Garands are held at every angle BUT up. I smile with pride to see them, time after time, parade out there in all kinds of weather to honor a deceased veteran. I use to be the young guy, one of the vets from Nam. Now, that is hardly the case anymore. But the new vets aren't joining the VFW and the AL like the vets from other wars. So, posts everywhere are dying, and the few remaining WWII and Korea vets, like this man, are still performing most of the visible duties of these dwindling posts. This discussion hadn't been up for ten minutes, and I knew it was the Asiatic Pacific Campaign Ribbon. I kept quiet until now because, in my mind's eye, I was seeing the thousands of old warriors, many of whom are now gone, who have borne the Colors and shouldered the rifles to too many graveside services. As one other commenter observed, "I'm forty years younger than this guy, and I'd be lucky if half my stuff wasn't pinned to my shirt upside down and all out of order!!!" (or words to that effect) I salute this old Veteran in the picture. He has surely borne his share of the fight for our freedoms.
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I took it as more that folks are not familiar with the WW2 and Korean era awards. His rack is totally congruent with his stated service, once you actually give it a good look (and the photo was bad).
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Another thing RP people are forgetting is that this is his AMERICAN LEGION uniform. That's why he has a mishmash of pins and patches everywhere. The gold aquilette is an Honor Guard or Color Guard designation in his post.
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LTC Paul Labrador - Sir my point is why are even giving it a "good look"....this old war dog is not in a pass and review or inspection.. He's not trying to get anything, he's just trying to continue service to his brothers and sisters in arms we should be thanking him.....not treating him like a subordinate in their dress uniform for the first time.....Perhaps if the original had read "Hey can someone tell me what this ribbon is I don't recognize it?" instead of "I'm a bit curious about that rack" I would be more inclined to agree with you. Anyway I concur I could be over reacting and apologize if i am.
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He's a WWII and Korean Vet, I think that the ribbon with the 4 stars may be the asiatic Pacific Campaign but can't see it well. He has been both a marine or navy as well as Army. He's wearing the China Service Ribbon, pre WWII.

It looks legit and I can tell you that if he is NA they don't cotton to posers!
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CW2 Ernest Krutzsch
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Careful, remember uniforms and regulations change
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SSG Robert Webster
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The China Service Medal is also a post WWII award and service in theatre during WWII can be used for qualifying service.
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I do not see a good conduct medal, but hey a lot of people served and never received one. If this guy is old enough to have served in China he would have to be about 92 and at that age I give him credit for remembering his own name. Hell I have to take out my driver's license when someone asks me my name.
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SPC Americo Garcia
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In our Honor Guard we have a few 70+ guys cause no young people want to join the VFW, AL, DAV, or the All Veterans council of Tom Green County. Yet never heard them complain about having to be there on short notice to see a fellow veteran off to the resting place. It is done out of pride and respect for our fellow men and women who have served. RAH!
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LCpl Steven Humphrey
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alot of people back in that day that had alot of rack space also got in alot of trouble. look at Chesty Puller for example.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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He has a GCM. It's his 4th ribbon on the rack in descending order.
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Cpl Brett Wagner
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PFC Steven Humphrey - General Puller got in trouble? I'm just saying if you served in China at the age of 16 (which some did) you would be 92 now.
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Local hero? A bit curious about that rack...
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From looking at his rack and reading the story I don't see anything outlandish here. I do see his black beret and airborne/glider patch which was never authorized in that fashion to my knowledge. But to his defense at the time of his service the glider patch was worn on the garrison cap and with the black beret being army wide on the early 2000's is most likely a case of an old man trying to fit it. Although I have no idea what that yellow cord would actually stand for. Other than that nothing looks that out of place to me.
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PO3 Jody Wangen
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men usually wear out their hats. he might have borrowed the beret cuz his was ratty. and at his age and with his experience, he can wear it any way he want. he earned it. besides, he is not active duty. he does not have to follow regs. or maybe it was regs in his day.
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PO3 Jody Wangen
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also, as he was in more than one branch, no rules on how to mix them cuz you do not while on active duty.
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SSG Robert Webster
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PO3 Jody Wangen - You need to go back and check the uniform and awards regulations, you do not want to ding someone incorrectly. There are rules that do apply and those rules also apply to the order of precedence and what is or is not allowed. What is not allowed is the mixing of Marksmanship medals and awards, but in this case I do not recognize any Navy Marksmanship Ribbons. The only two that I see that someone could have an issue with is the two different versions of the Presidential Unit Citation. However, from appearances he could be correct in wearing both. From the Army Regulation (Old) and the DA Pamphlet (Current) - Personnel may wear service medals and service and training ribbons awarded by other U.S. Services on the Army uniform, except for the Air Force Longevity Service Award ribbon and Air Force, Navy, and Coast Guard marksmanship medals and ribbons. Personnel will wear service and training medals and ribbons awarded by other U.S. Services after U.S. Army service and training ribbons, and before foreign awards.
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That was going to be my response, Staff Sergeant, but you beat me to it. I served in three branches and have ribbons and medals from each. The only overlap that I cannot double up on are marksmanship medals/ribbons from the Navy and Coast Guard.
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This link should help everyone ID medals in the future! The Institute of Heraldry. Great website: http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/
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Looks like he has (in order) as BSM, PH, Air Medal, GCM, (one I can't ID), American Defense Medal, American Campaign Medal, Pacific TO Campaing medal with 4 battle stars, WW2 Victory, Occupation medal, NDSM, Korean Service Medal, Philippine Lilberation Medal, Korea UN Medal.
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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You got better eyes than I do!
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SSG Robert Webster
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Unidentified is the Navy Presidential Citation. Note that on the other side is the Army Presidential Unit Citation.
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There were somethings that were making me wonder, and then I read the story and saw he was in the Navy and Army, and I could buy what I could see. What actually kind of surprised me when I was considering the story and where and what he did...shouldn't there actually be more awards? Army and Navy Good Conduct medals, ETC? Nothing screamed "Stolen Valor!"
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.

I think I am missing the Army Air Corp?
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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Woops .. I saw "Johnson served from February 1942 as a gunner and dive bomber until the end of the war in August 1945. " and forgot the Navy has planes too!
So that explains the wings on top of the rack as well.
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.

WHAT?  The Navy has air planes?  

I guess he went Navy as a boy and joined the Army when he was a man?
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Well they have rubberbands for engines but we allow for that. lol
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Almost looks like a Vietnam Service Medal?
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Comes close!
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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I just don't know .. I am pawing through MyServicePride to find a match, but the photo just aint that great.

What about the airborne oval?
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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Asiatic Pacific Campaign Medal w/4 Bronze Stars
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First, the ribbon pictured above is for the Vietnam Campaign Medal, not the Vietnam Service Medal. Second, in my opinion, it's not even in the ballpark, color-wise. Design, borderline similar, but not color.
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Well, I too am unable to ‘zoom’ in on the image. That said, it would appear this is what is displayed on the wearer’s left:

It would (again) APPEAR as though he is wearing:

United States Navy Aviation Observer or USN, USMC, USCG, Aircrew Badge
Combat Infantryman’s Badge

Bronze Star Medal
Purple Heart Medal
Air Medal
Army Good Conduct Medal
Navy Presidential Unit Citation Ribbon
China Service Medal
American Campaign Medal
Asiatic Pacific Campaign Medal w/4 Bronze Stars
World War II Victory Medal
Occupation Medal (the Ribbon is indistinguishable from Army or Navy)
National Defense Service Medal
Korean Service Medal
Philippine Liberation Medal (inverted)
United Nations Korea Service Medal

Pathfinder Badge
Expert Qualification Badge with two Qualification Clasps
Basic Army Parachutist Badge (Unit Flash unidentified)

Wearer’s right:

Presidential Unit Citation Ribbon although I cannot say for certainty if it is Army or Air Force.

I will not even try to determine collar devices, Commemorative devices or the unit lineage for the Enlisted Glider Patch Flash on his beret.

I would suggest contacting Jacey over at MyServicePride.com as she and those folks are very good at taking a closer look not just at the ‘hardware’ but then correlating if in fact it was at least ‘possible’ based upon self-attested dates of service, etc. they could have been awarded.
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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When you got to the Asiatic Pacific Campaign Medal w/4 Bronze Stars my cutiousity was satisfied .. that is starting to look like a pretty kosher rack.
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CPL(P) Bret Farritor
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There may be some issues with the Flashes (either beret or worn with his Parachutist Badge), I know someone pointed out the Pathfinder Badge -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathfinder_Badge_(United_States)

The bottom line is a thorough look at the individual's service records which are FOIA would spell out precisely what is or is not there. Each Medal has specific criteria and you would really need to look at each one especially in relation to the Era(s) and what if anything was later retroactively authorized or not.

We are very quick to pull the trigger these days and scream 'BS' but honestly, while I can say it is an unusual collection and would grab nearly any of our attention instantly. I just don't know.

I can cite instances where men I have served with posed for their Official DA Photo with unauthorized hardware despite both a genuine belief they were authorized to wear something and a lack of knowledge of the Personnel Administration Professionals who in turn threw that on a DD-214.
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The only real problem I see is that he is wearing an Airborne Glider Infantry beret. The article states he joined the Army in 1950, yet the Glider Corps was disbanded in 1948
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This is true. I stand corrected.
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I believe... the glider patch was worn by the 101 on the garrison cap for a long time after that. MSG (Join to see). I saw dudes wearing them them with their greens.
http://gruntsandco.com/perspective-101sts-transition-air-assault-invention-air-assault-badge/
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COL Charles Williams - And this is what happens when I choose not to jump out of aircraft that are capable of landing. I have but basic knowledge of Airborne history.
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MSG (Join to see) - Yes my friend... 101 was sporting those garrison caps with glider patches, likely until we went to the black beret and ASU. I can't remember when and where, but I thought the blue beret (not UN blue, but Navy) was interesting. I suspect this guy either had a the black beret in some unit, or just likes to wear it, with the patch. My dad (USN retired) just passed away and he had one of my black berets with all kinds of crap on it he wore daily. I sent a maroon too... but, he liked the black one.
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