Posted on May 29, 2015
MSG Morgan Fiszel, CPCM, CFCM
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CW4 Larry Curtis
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Edited 9 y ago
While I will side whole-heartedly on the side of 1st Amendment Rights, I also have to believe we should temper our exercise of such rights with good ole common sense. I have mixed feelings when it gets right down to it, but at the same time we don't need to be inviting a conflict by stirring the pot, either. I don't believe that our "infidel" struggle is necessarily against their prophet Mohammed so much as it is against the terrorist extremists themselves, and so maybe it would be best suited that if there is going to be a cartoon contest that it should involve caricatures of ISIS members. After all, it is THEY who are making the trouble, and THEY who are also making the threats against our free speech by showing up at these events with intentions to slaughter the participants for their offense.

By the same token, if we are expected to have to accept and learn to live with such things as the beliefs that fallen US Service members should not be honored on Memorial Day, which is about as offensive to me personally as anyone can get, outside of trampling on the National Colors and denouncing my country, then people of that ilk need to accept and learn to live with the cartoons. And we haven't even gotten into how religious beliefs have been taking a beating lately.

Just my 2 cents. Carry on. :D
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SSG John Erny
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If you Poke someone with a sharp stick do not be suprised if they strike back.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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It is in poor taste.
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MAJ Keira Brennan
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I am a Humanist I have = measures of disdain for jihadists, evangelists, and anyone else who tries to shove their doctrine on people (take that WBC). I have HUGE contempt for both those calling for this provocative contest & those calling for exercising their right to carry. Don't get me wrong, I am PRO-Gun & PRO-Free Speech. This event sounds IMHO as potentially reckless as screaming "FIRE" in a theater. It is the Muslims who have to deal w/ living in the 21st century where Non-Muslims have the birthright to express our opinions on the ludicrousness of their religion just as 42% of our fellow Americans who believe the Earth is 10,000yrs old get laughed at by me. An armed society is big responsibility & this looks like it might get out of hand by reactionaries.

RELIGION RUINS EVERYTHING
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PO1 Kerry French
PO1 Kerry French
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No. No it doesn't.
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MAJ Keira Brennan
MAJ Keira Brennan
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Recklessness. Same thing
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CPT Jack Durish
CPT Jack Durish
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Why did you add the graphic "Religion Ruins Everything"? It seems highly provocative and hardly necessary to your comment. Just asking...
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PFC Jose Rivera Valentin
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i think nothing of it . but what does america think about the thousands of christians being murdered by islam?
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SPC Ei McS
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...Let's forget about the thousands of non-Christians we Christians murdered in the past...
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PFC Jose Rivera Valentin
PFC Jose Rivera Valentin
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we did, guess i forgot
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PO2 Frederick Deraney
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I understand the 1st amendment and we are in America, but there is a sort of disrespect about how they are going about the whole event. We can be free to express our thoughts, but with a certain decorum. The Prophet Mohammed cartoon contest in Dallas wasn’t done at an Islamic Community Center it was held at a neutral site, and that showed respect and was in good taste in regards to what the event is about. Having a Prophet Mohammed cartoon contest outside a Phoenix mosque is pushing the envelope, and then having protesters shout obscenities and carry signs that read "F*** Islam", we can’t have it one way. If you want the 1st amendment upheld then show respect. Good judgement and common sense needs to prevail.
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SP5 Tracy McCallum
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If they are offended tell them to move back to a Muslim country!
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt
CDR Michael Goldschmidt
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If they are offended, they can assemble peaceably, like anyone else.
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SSG Intelligence Sergeant
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The problem with this sort of an event is that the almost two billion Muslims (like me) who acknowledge your right to free speech and though I do not like it and think it's a tasteless event with little to no benefit, I would not do much to stop it other than speaking to the leader one on one. The people who will react violently, which undoubtedly would amount to less than ten if anything did happen, are the people who the leader thinks represent all of Islam. It dumbfounds me.
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt
CDR Michael Goldschmidt
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I appreciate your post, SPC, but hardly believe you can speak for 2 Billion ANYONE. I certainly can't. I can only speak for myself. I appreciate your speaking fr YOURself.
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Cpl Mark McMiller
Cpl Mark McMiller
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I guess I don't understand how if there are two billion Muslims who are like you, how are these small Muslim terrorist organizations able to operate so freely in the middle east and elsewhere? Why are we hearing more and more in the news about Muslims attempting to implement Sharia law in other countries?
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PO1 Kerry French
PO1 Kerry French
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There are not 2 billion Muslims. There are about 1.6 billion and the percentage of them that support jihad is about 40% - hardly a small number
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SFC Matthew Parker
SFC Matthew Parker
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1.6 is the same as almost 2, stop being rude.

its not 40% that support terrorism or violence. Stop quoting non facts and out right nonsense. Jihad does not mean violence, it does not mean killing innocents and it does not mean terrorism. Its not world domination and it does not mean eliminate Christian thinking or religion.

Will you please for the love of all that's holy read a history book, speak with a Imam at the local mosque and try understanding the difference between a Muslim in the US and the radicals in the middle east.

Do you even know the difference between shia and sunni or care?
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SPC Indirect Fire Infantryman (Mortarman)
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Although amusing. It is never smart to taunt, or throw the first punch!
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SSG Program Control Manager
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The extremists doing the provocative drawings are well within their rights, however that doesn't change the fact that what they are doing is offensive and disgusting. The fact that other extremists might show up and participate in violent acts that are even more offensive and disgusting doesn't change that.
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Sorry, read another one of your posts a little further down. I agree with what you said.
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SSG Program Control Manager
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If Atheists are provoking Christians in an attempt to get a violent response, we should condemn it even though we defend their right to be jerks. The same goes for people attempting to provoke a violent response from Muslims, I defend their rights... at the same time I condemn their actions.
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt
CDR Michael Goldschmidt
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The more we use the term "extremists", the less it has meaning. Of course, Ayn Rand noted this in 1964, and I see the term has had its resurrection. Is extremism bad in itself? Of course not. One can be extremely honest or extremely dishonest, extremely just or extremely unjust, extremely pleasant or extremely foul, for just a few examples. Extreme is simply a degree.
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A group of people who arm themselves and attempt to incite violence in front of Mosque qualify as extremists in my book. Thankfully they are not violent extremists.

I saw no sign of extremism within the Islamic community in Phoenix, however if a group of them felt arming themselves and then urinating on images of Jesus in front of the local Christian church was an appropriate response... they would be extremists as well.
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