Posted on Mar 18, 2015
SGM Erik Marquez
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Motorcycle Mentors or unit POC's
How is your program going?
If you will, tell us if you're a Mentor or Unit POC, Co, BN, BDE level? Are you a rider? Are you a MSF Rider coach or other training program instructor (Lee Parks or ??)
What is your unit support like at the CO, BN, BDE?
Does your unit program still require SM's to wear the High Viz vest even though DOD and the Army has removed the requirement?

If you are able to, lets see your unit policy.. be it CORPS, DIV, BDE, BN or separate unit.

I am a former Motorcycle Mentor at the Division and BN level.
I currently teach MSF basic and advanced rider education to include license waiver courses for Texas. I also teach on Fort hood for Cape Fox.
If you're a Army Member in Texas and would like to know what the current policies are, I can speak to some of them in the third party and put you in touch with the folks that are the proponent at hood if needed.

If you can speak on behalf of your post / unit (CORPS, DIV, BDE, or BN level).. please put that up at the top of you post so RP members in your area can contact you and get the REAL deal, and not so much of the BS I hear my mil students attending my civilian course tell me (Sir I had to take this course and not the free one on post, my commander said the on post one was not good for a license) ..arrrrrggggg NO......
I detest commanders (or NCO's)
that intentionally make false statements or otherwise add complexity or obstructions just in the hope the SM will choose its not worth the effort..

They WILL RIDE ANYWAY .. so lets get them trained and aware of the risks, knowledge and experience to make informed , adult, educated decisions.
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WO1 Marine Deck Officer
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For my unit, after we got back from the last two deployments, we had a refresher course within a few day of our redeployments, before we could ride our motorcycles. A lot of the guys were mad, but I got a lot out of it, and was happy to get the practice before I took my wife out on the back. The morning of the training was all classroom, BRC refresher type information, and the afternoon was all lanes to practice corning, and things like that. It was really good to get the refresher training, and I was very thankful for it. Plus, it's easy to get up for work, when you are going to ride all day. I greatly encourage any redeploying unit to mandate the refresher training. It's a fun, and safe way to reintroduce Service Members back into riding after being away for so long.
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SGM Erik Marquez
SGM Erik Marquez
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WO1 (Join to see) Army wide most motorcycle safety policies I have reviewed (only 6 so far include something along the lines of "Motorcycle Refresher Training (MRT)
All redeployed (six months and greater deployments) military motorcycle riders will attend MRT or the next uncompleted phase of training (as determined by the commander with the recommendation of the unit . Motorcycle safety program coordinator (MSPC) prior to operating a motorcycle. The service member is authorized to ride their motorcycle to the training site. This training will be conducted by the unit MSPC "

Great news that 18th Airborne Corps is one of them..
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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I don't ride currently. My bike was totalled when a civilian rear-ended me at a red light on Ft Belvoir when I "stopped suddenly."

The amount of bum scoop going around was insane. The amount of plain idiocy going around was insane.

I got turned away from the gate once, because I didn't have a vest on. Below is my race gear (which is reflective). Draped over the left shoulder (right side of picture) is the reflective vest I was required to buy so I could go on base. They didn't care about the reflective strips... just that it was Yellow or Orange.... They also would have accepted ANY colored PT Belt.
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SGM Erik Marquez
SGM Erik Marquez
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS well the good news is, once you're back on a bike,, no more silly vest
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MSG Mark Rudolph
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I was recently appointed as my Battalion's Motorcycle Safety NCOIC. So far, I created our required binder with all rider information and safety policies. Additionally, I email a "Monthly Motorycle Tip". Topics so far have included: proper motorcycle helmet fitment, available training programs, and keeping your riding gear from getting stolen while on the bike. It's still a work in progress.
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SGM Erik Marquez
SGM Erik Marquez
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MSG Mark Rudolph Outstanding, thanks for taking the additional duty seriously, so few do.
May I suggest next time the topic of helmet comes up you include care of the helmet to include the normal lifespan, how to ID when the helmet was made and common detrimental things riders do to the helms that damage them>

I find all too often riders have no idea a helpt has a useable lifespan that starts the second it comes from the mold (or sale depending on who you ask).
Shoei says lifespan of 5 years from purchase date and 7 years from manufacture date.
AGV states a helmet should be replaced either 5 years after date of purchase or 7 years after date of manufacturing, whichever comes first.
Snell states "Why should you replace your helmet every five years?

The five-year replacement recommendation is based on a consensus by both helmet manufacturers and the Snell Foundation. Glues, resins and other materials used in helmet production can affect liner materials. Hair oils, body fluids and cosmetics, as well as normal "wear and tear" all contribute to helmet degradation. Petroleum based products present in cleaners, paints, fuels and other commonly encountered materials may also degrade materials used in many helmets possibly degrading performance. Additionally, experience indicates there will be a noticeable improvement in the protective characteristic of helmets over a five-year period due to advances in materials, designs, production methods and the standards. Thus, the recommendation for five-year helmet replacement is a judgment call stemming from a prudent safety philosophy."

and I have more cites, but the 5 and 7 years spans are consistent for most manufactures.
Or that using paint with solvents and other harsh chemicals can damage the helmet shell.

Here is a MSF handout for helmet fit, care, use
http://www.msf-usa.org/downloads/helmet_CSI.pdf
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MSG Mark Rudolph
MSG Mark Rudolph
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Already ahead of you, SGM. I covered that and provided a link for further reading. I recently purchased a new helmet (Arai Signet-Q US Flag), jacket (Triumph Retro Air), and jeans (Alpinestars). I have always preached the use of quality riding gear and making sure it fits!
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