Posted on Jun 18, 2015
MP to Civilian Law Enforcement; what do civilian departments think of hiring MPs?
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I have heard some law enforcment agencies don't prefer hiring MPs, is this true and how come? Just curious since I am set on going into civilian law enforcement.
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SPC Seth Lund, good cops always verify, so stop listening to others and apply.
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Legally they can't discriminate on that basis. I encountered the same thing when I got out where I was told off the record by other cops that they prefer not to hire MPs because of the differences in tactics. They didn't want the nonsense associated with un-training bad habits. I doubt it really makes much of a difference these days since the line between para-military LE agencies and actual military is more blurred than ever.
If you're concerned about it, then tailor your resume to emphasize your security, anti-terrorism, and combat training, and downplay your LE training. Either way you'll still have to pass their physical agility test, background investigation, and, in most places, a polygraph.
You might also want to look into US Marshals, Air Marshals, US State Dept, and DHS Police.
If you're concerned about it, then tailor your resume to emphasize your security, anti-terrorism, and combat training, and downplay your LE training. Either way you'll still have to pass their physical agility test, background investigation, and, in most places, a polygraph.
You might also want to look into US Marshals, Air Marshals, US State Dept, and DHS Police.
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SMSgt David Popwell
SFC Lyden, don't know where you are We have the 7th Special Forces Group here, and the Ranger Training School as well as the HQ SF COM. We always look for former Military. Where do non SWAT people think we get our tactics from?
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SMSgt David Popwell I can only speak from my own experience, but I did make a point to mention that those concerns are probably less relevant these days since the line between military and para-military are virtually non-existant. Regarding the original discussion topic this young man is hearing it somewhere, so there must still be some reluctance still around. And more to the point, neither the original question nor my response indicated a reluctance to hire military veterans, but a reluctance to hire former MPs.
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Good question SPC (Join to see). I would say it depends. USAMPS has started a pilot wherein eventually all MPs who graduate OSUT and successfully meet/pass the Missouri POST (peace officer standardization test) will also be certified as a police office in Missouri.
It depends, for a few reasons.
1. Some Soldiers, MPs, people with previous experience can be hard headed, and hence to train as they think they already know everything. I would say with MPs transitioning to civilian law enforcement, this could be especially true. So, be humble, and don't be too full of yourself. You have a good basis, but you will still be a new guy... so listen, learn, and don't be a know it all.
2. I would say Soldiers (Service Members) are attractive to law enforcement as they bring discipline, fitness, values, and all the other things you gain in the military.
I think you will find a mixed bag, of former military and former military police.
They key is to make yourself as competive as possible, and be humble.
I applied to be State Trooper (AK) when I was a young troop, as was offered and academy seat, and I applied for the FBI as a young captain, and was offered a position there.
It depends, for a few reasons.
1. Some Soldiers, MPs, people with previous experience can be hard headed, and hence to train as they think they already know everything. I would say with MPs transitioning to civilian law enforcement, this could be especially true. So, be humble, and don't be too full of yourself. You have a good basis, but you will still be a new guy... so listen, learn, and don't be a know it all.
2. I would say Soldiers (Service Members) are attractive to law enforcement as they bring discipline, fitness, values, and all the other things you gain in the military.
I think you will find a mixed bag, of former military and former military police.
They key is to make yourself as competive as possible, and be humble.
I applied to be State Trooper (AK) when I was a young troop, as was offered and academy seat, and I applied for the FBI as a young captain, and was offered a position there.
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SSG Paul Lanciault
I found some departments behind the times and refuse to hear of anything different. Thinking MPs did not know what they were talking about. Sometimes better to move on than be humble. But your right, over all be flexible, humble, competive and move where you find the opportunities.
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SMSgt David Popwell
As I said in another post I am a Chief of Police and would hire any MP, SP MA, CID, OSI, NCIS agent/ person any day of the week ahead of a straight police academy graduate. I am a former Military Criminal Investigator, props to USAMPS. FLETC and the FBI Academy were easy compared to my younger training. Thanks Uncle Sam, don't ever think the civilian side is different, what you are taught is the same as what the Feds are taught. Forms have a different number but exactly the same info and administrivia. :) yes we are armed all the time on and off duty, not as cool as you think. The TV show cops have cool cloths, try buying some to cover you weapon, baggy pants or baggy shirts not at all like T.V NCIS agents wear:)
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I have several MP friends who are on the force in St. Louis, two in SWAT. They never mentioned having any problems with their civilian counter parts regarding difficulty making the transition to civilian law enforcement.
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I am a LEO in my civilian job. My agency likes to hire veterans. With that said there is no preference (or prejudice) for MPs.
I will say that I had a former MP in the Academy with me (22 years ago) and at one point the instructors had to tell him "we don't care how you did it there, this is how you do it here".
If you are an MP going to a civilian agency be humble, keep your mouth closed and your ears open there are many things that may be different. At least until you get off probation!
I will say that I had a former MP in the Academy with me (22 years ago) and at one point the instructors had to tell him "we don't care how you did it there, this is how you do it here".
If you are an MP going to a civilian agency be humble, keep your mouth closed and your ears open there are many things that may be different. At least until you get off probation!
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SGT Gerald “Jerry” Harrell
I spent over 30 years in civilian law enforcement and I never saw it all or knew it all. I learned all the time and retired as a Captain. When you think you know it all you have stopped growing.
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As a professional civilian law enforcement trainer, I can tell you for certain departments in the midwest love to hire prior military, regardless of MOS.
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Just show the willingness to go to the Academy and learn something new. You should have no problem being accepted.
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My military police experience aided me in gaining my job, but MP training does not in any way come close to civilian law enforcement training. There are extensive differences particualrly in use of force, legal aspects, etc. I was and am proud of my MP backgound but it did not equate to civilian cop training. I always thought that the Army would benefit from a refit in training to make MP training more like civilian or, like the Air Force, seperate LE from the Security /Field side. MPs are an essential part of the Army and I truly believed the Motto 'Of the troops and for the troops' MPs would be better if they were soldiers with a few years under their belt, maybe field MPs, or in my case I worked physical security, then Law enforcement , maybe more like the Master At Arms of the Navy.
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Not sure what state you're in but I know in Mississippi they don't have a problem with it
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COL. Williams is correct. USAMPS is leaning more towards proffesionalizing the Military Police Corps. The Leason plans are writen the testing made they are just waiting for someone to pull the trigger and say go.
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