Posted on Sep 24, 2020
My chain of command just announced that they're going to inspect on and off-post housing. What are they allow to inspect?
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So my question is can they order me open up my kid's room if my son and daughter are in their rooms, or if my dogs are in one of the rooms behind a closed door because of not being friendly to strangers can they order me to open. I apologize for such a naive question, I just have never experienced this before. Is there anything I can reference about off post house inspection by the chain of command.
Posted 5 y ago
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How did you learn of this inspection. Was it from an official memo, or through second hand sources. Is it possible your command wants to do a “ courtesy” inspection and it’s just being blown out of proportion?
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I’ve read many of the comments and most make sense. Firstly, what are the SOPs, Installation, IMCOM Regulations say about this. One base housing is an IMCOM and Installation Commander responsibility. Offpost, That SOP should cover, what are they looking for, with examples, such ad frayed cords, gang outlets, flammable storage containers, whom is responsible for corrective actions and timelines. Reporting chain and remedies if not corrected. Most of the time, for noncompliance from a landlord, the Installation Housing Officer can place a ban on military rentals. What happens if they find illicit drugs or other forbidden items? This is a can of worms that was not well thought through. Lastly, that Commander had better have a regulation that allows this. Like the one poster said, he owns his own house, better have a warrant.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
No regu;lation can allow this since it would contravene the US Constitution and law.
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Hate to burst everyone's bubble. But if you live off post the Army is paying for it too. So a health and welfare can be done. Or you could always give back your baq.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
CPL Jason Northedge - You might disagree, but reality, personal and professional experience, law and and regulations agree with me so I feel OK about that
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CPL Jason Northedge
1stSgt Nelson Kerr that might be your personal experience but not law and regulations. I've been to soldiers off post housing before for inspections and confinement. So I can say the same thing.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
CPL Jason Northedge -Have you ever been in another persons off post housing without permission? If so you committed a crime.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
CPL Jason Northedge - I know the government has no say, it was part of my Job to know, In the USAF 1St Sgt is a JOB TITLE nor rank.
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I had seen a news clip of Military Wife who says that on Post Housing is in poor condition on one of the installations. It is a good idea to let them do an inspection. That way they can make recommendations to Post Command. As for off Post Housing I haven't heard your apartment or house being inspected.
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They have no authority to enter your off post residence without your consent .
JAG may be able to help. Be aware your chain of command may make your life harder because you refused to comply to an inspection. Again JAG would be your best resource . Good luck.
JAG may be able to help. Be aware your chain of command may make your life harder because you refused to comply to an inspection. Again JAG would be your best resource . Good luck.
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This is a very complex issue with many ugly arms. 1st your Chain of command needs to be very careful with the exact wording used when inspecting anything (their JAG rep can proofread stuff, mine use to) While many are right that off post housing is kinda off limits. I assume DOD pays your BAH so that's their reach into your house but with limitations. Your a Noncommissioned Officer so you also have obligations to live up to in support of your chain of command. at the end of the day just make sure you confirm orders and do the common sense thing and always Take Care of Soldiers.
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You have a recourse. Visit the IG and get feedback from them. As mentioned, it might be prudent to let them visit your house, as a guest, but they can remain in the living room and kitchen. There is a lot of emphasis on housing conditions and it could be your commander merely wants to make sure you and your family are safe. Just ensure they understand the bounds of your invitation. Perhaps you could ask them if they are looking for anything in particular.
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They are checking if where you live is livable. This is due to some housing areas, mostly on base, have issues of mold, and other things that might cause people to develop ailments over time.
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Capt Jeff S.
Regardless, they must get permission from you before they inspect your private residence and if you refuse, it should not reflect negatively in any way on your record. It strikes me as odd how Liberals will denigrate Conservatives as if Liberals stood up for the rights of the people and it's just the opposite; they want to take all your rights away -- and people have been so conditioned by the education system and in media that they're okay with that. SMH Liberal Progressivism is a cancer destroying our country.
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SSG Shawn Mcfadden
You're talking about liberals wanting to take everyone's rights away, yet those that are in the "red" States are changing voting laws that make it more difficult to vote.
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If you have nothing to hide, what's the problem?
You'll know when they are coming, fix them something to snack on and take the opportunity to learn and understand the vision of your COC. Get a peek into their life in a off-base atmosphere while using your home as the advantage point.
Thats just my opinion and it worked for me for just under 28yrs.
Good luck, remember that not everyone is out to get you.
You'll know when they are coming, fix them something to snack on and take the opportunity to learn and understand the vision of your COC. Get a peek into their life in a off-base atmosphere while using your home as the advantage point.
Thats just my opinion and it worked for me for just under 28yrs.
Good luck, remember that not everyone is out to get you.
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SSG Ryan Rink
SSG Dennis Mendoza
I honestly believe that it is all in how you as a person respond to it, I had my run ins with the COC and I also seen beyond the immediate actions of them. Each soldier and situation is different, how your subordinates see you react to it could have a long term effect on their careers. It's all about how you want to be seen and followed.
I honestly believe that it is all in how you as a person respond to it, I had my run ins with the COC and I also seen beyond the immediate actions of them. Each soldier and situation is different, how your subordinates see you react to it could have a long term effect on their careers. It's all about how you want to be seen and followed.
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SSG Dennis Mendoza
SSG Ryan Rink yeah i was fine about it, just how they worded initially was that they were going to inspect my off post home and definitely my wife didn't take it as nicely as I did she was like what we keep the house clean even with three dogs. But of course the COC then fixed it and said we're just doing a courtesy visit it's not an inspection. But I was fine with the courtesy visit, just didn't like the wording initially.
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If the off-post housing is government owned they have the right to do health and comfort inspections as if it were on-base housing. At least that was the case when I was still on active duty and I did exactly that when housing issues were brought to my attention.
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