Posted on Sep 24, 2020
My chain of command just announced that they're going to inspect on and off-post housing. What are they allow to inspect?
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So my question is can they order me open up my kid's room if my son and daughter are in their rooms, or if my dogs are in one of the rooms behind a closed door because of not being friendly to strangers can they order me to open. I apologize for such a naive question, I just have never experienced this before. Is there anything I can reference about off post house inspection by the chain of command.
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My question is if you are a good troop and they want to make sure you and your family are OK, do you really want to piss off the 1SG, when he is trying to take care of you.
All things being equal, just saying.
Maybe it as different in the way back when I was in.
My question is if you are a good troop and they want to make sure you and your family are OK, do you really want to piss off the 1SG, when he is trying to take care of you.
All things being equal, just saying.
Maybe it as different in the way back when I was in.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
Why do you assume the 1SG has good intentions? If so why would he be going so far over the line?
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1SG James Kelly
Maybe he cares about his troops and their families?
Of course that being said it goes to show I'm just an old softy.
But if you tell anyone I will rip off your head and shit in your neck.
Of course that being said it goes to show I'm just an old softy.
But if you tell anyone I will rip off your head and shit in your neck.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
1SG James Kelly - If he cared it would not be an unlawful order. Asking is caring
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1SG James Kelly
1stSgt Nelson Kerr - I was stationed in Germany twice in the last century, n ot sure but I think they could inspect for health, welfare and safety.
Some landlords were not nice people.
Some landlords were not nice people.
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Not sure about this - but I believe off-post housing that is located on post property can be inspected, it not any different than the barracks on post and/or base housing. I had a SSgt who's on base housing was terrible inside - judicial punishment was administered to this individual and social services temporarily removed his children. I agree with the other post, off base housing is private property and your leadership has no authority to inspect your home.
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Hey SSG. Not a naive question. But if I remember right. There is a procedure they have to follow before doing health welfare on off post housing. It includes a pre notice.
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Just in case this hasn't been covered enough, there are countless articles online from military sources that cover this topic thoroughly. My first stop would've been Google, where I'd have gotten all the info I needed and never even needed to come here.
Search engines are great at finding the info you're looking for. You just have to actually use them first. Seems like a common thing that people would rather post the question somewhere and wait for hours/days/weeks someone else to give them the answer before they'll ever spend 60 seconds looking for it themselves. 99% of the time, the info they need is in the first 3 search results but again, you have to actually use them to find this stuff. Something most, people appear to not want and/or know how to do.
Search engines are great at finding the info you're looking for. You just have to actually use them first. Seems like a common thing that people would rather post the question somewhere and wait for hours/days/weeks someone else to give them the answer before they'll ever spend 60 seconds looking for it themselves. 99% of the time, the info they need is in the first 3 search results but again, you have to actually use them to find this stuff. Something most, people appear to not want and/or know how to do.
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SFC Robert Walton
Over half of what you find on Google DOES NOT apply to the Military and is nothing more than ill fated thoughts and civilian regulations that Do not apply to the actual Military.
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Times have certainly changed since my TIS. Once you moved off post or off base. Chain of Command/COC lost any and all rights to even Come to your home uninvited, and most definitely could not perform any type of inspection. Then again, one had to prove they were worthy of living off base. You had to be an E5 or higher at some stations. E5 and below had to remain in base housing.
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it is a matter of folks living in slumlord housing. We had a lot of folks living in unsafe conditions and we blacklisted a lot of landlords. This can be done without going in homes. Not everyone knows their legal rights for standard of living against landlords as folks do in the civilian world. We even inspected cars and repaired them for our folks. Not everyone knows how to repair cars or have the money. If folks did not have money to buy beds, food, clothing, appliances or anything else to live well, we stood up and took care of them.
We should demand better for our folks.
We looked out for our folks which is our responsibility.
We should demand better for our folks.
We looked out for our folks which is our responsibility.
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The base housing office wanted to ensure that soldiers were receiving adequate housing from the German landlords. The chain of command bought into the idea, and it was voluntary, although not well known. As a 1SG at the time, the idea came from my CSM.
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Back in the 80's we were living in Sub-Standard off base housing in New Orleans. It was government housing but because it didn't have things like auto dishwashers and the like, we got partial BAQ.
There was a small fire in the upstairs unit directly above ours. The FD had to come in and be sure it hadn't moved into our quarters. Breakfast dishes were in the Sink, and we had a few loads of clean laundry waiting to be folded on the couch. When you have a 2 year old and a 4 year old, that's pretty common.
The Base Housing people said my wife "was a poor housekeeper" and she had to see the CO of the Main base in New Orleans to be "Counseled".
We moved into civilian apartment building 10 days later. Several civilians were lucky I didn't want to go to jail, or "Asses would be stinging" Big pairs of balls on those people.
On base, nothing you can do. They wanted to bring drug dogs through housing in Puerto Rico, and even though I had no drugs in the house, I sprinkled black pepper mixed with Paprika along baseboards, under furniture, etc just on principle. Never heard anything about it.
I'm a former LEO too---If you live off base, they need a warrant. And in many towns (I know for sure about Norwich, CT when I was at New London), the Judge in Superior court kindly told the NCIS to go piss up a rope when they wanted to search my home as well as others---Guilt by association don't cha know. Didn't work.
There was a small fire in the upstairs unit directly above ours. The FD had to come in and be sure it hadn't moved into our quarters. Breakfast dishes were in the Sink, and we had a few loads of clean laundry waiting to be folded on the couch. When you have a 2 year old and a 4 year old, that's pretty common.
The Base Housing people said my wife "was a poor housekeeper" and she had to see the CO of the Main base in New Orleans to be "Counseled".
We moved into civilian apartment building 10 days later. Several civilians were lucky I didn't want to go to jail, or "Asses would be stinging" Big pairs of balls on those people.
On base, nothing you can do. They wanted to bring drug dogs through housing in Puerto Rico, and even though I had no drugs in the house, I sprinkled black pepper mixed with Paprika along baseboards, under furniture, etc just on principle. Never heard anything about it.
I'm a former LEO too---If you live off base, they need a warrant. And in many towns (I know for sure about Norwich, CT when I was at New London), the Judge in Superior court kindly told the NCIS to go piss up a rope when they wanted to search my home as well as others---Guilt by association don't cha know. Didn't work.
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