Posted on Sep 17, 2016
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For instance: You're a SCPO and one mistakenly calls you a CPO. What would you say to them?
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SCPO Randy Breidel
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Being a SCPO, I have been called Chief by those who dont know me the star is hard to see I have made the mistake myself especially with eyesight, and even had Master chiefs call me Master chief so the gray hair sometimes how young you look or how old in a quick second a sailor makes a decision, correct him gently smirk and tell him to carry on. life is too short. Let's put it in perspective I had young Marines trying to stand at attention while pucking and dehydrated and I had to tell them back here Im just Doc and your the patient lay down. I had to do this almost everyday for a week finally I went to the school and kept going every new class, I told them be respectful but recognize the Drs and IDCs were there to care for you
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PO1 Roger Waddle
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Anything after chief is just a pay raise be glad they respect you enough to call you chief and carry on
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MCPO Kurt Stauff
MCPO Kurt Stauff
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Thank you for your considered, yet irrelevant comment; you're a PO1, so you don't know what it's like to be on the other side of the anchor--"just a pay raise", indeed--your Chief needs to sit you down for a good lesson.
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SCPO Lonny Randolph
SCPO Lonny Randolph
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Petty Officer Waddle, anything after Chief is considerably more than just a pay raise, with each advancement comes a considerable burden (or honor) of additional responsibility, authority and expected professionalism. I presume that your somewhat less than respectful response is merely an allusion to the fact that most Chiefs, Senior Chiefs and Master Chiefs will in fact answer to "Chief" which is quite true - however - these same individuals will generally quietly and politely correct you with their proper rank when addressed in that way and will subsequently require that you address them correctly in the future.
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PO1 Joseph Glennon
PO1 Joseph Glennon
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Master Chief and Senior Chief - I'm hoping that what Petty Officer Waddle was referring to was that once someone earns the title "Chief", that's a designation that can stand alone (except for positional billets, like MCC, MCPON, etc., or "Chief of the Boat") and the person behind the anchor deserves the recognition and respect of not only a senior paygrade, but a field expert. In that sense, it's true... the extra flourish on your fouled anchor just indicates another pay raise.

That's what I'm hoping he means. =)
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LTJG Jftoc Watch Officer
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Edited 9 y ago
Chiefs, Senior Chiefs, and Master Chiefs usually respond appropriately to the question. If a Junior Sailor says "Good morning Chief!" (When its a senior chief) - their response is typically: Good morning. No need to be a dick about it - they understand that a single star can be hard to see..

I've only ever had one Chief "hem me up". I said "Good morning!" to a Chief as I passed him in a group of people. I was a brand new 3rd class at the time. This Chief yells out, "Shipmate!" - I turn around. He says, "You will always address a Chief by Chief. It's good morning, Chief. Show a little respect."

Had I not greeted him like the rest of my group who looked away instead, there would have been no confrontation, yet because I greeted him out of respect, but was too worried about offending him by calling him the wrong pay-grade (i.e Chief or Senior Chief), I was dressed down. Now, I will always say "Chief" if I cannot tell the different, and correct myself if I realize I have made a mistake. Were I a Master Chief and someone called me a Chief accidentally, I'd brush it off. As long as I get the greeting, I feel thats what really matters.
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PO1 Joseph Glennon
PO1 Joseph Glennon
9 y
Hopefully, that's not all that was said to you... otherwise, you've got a really easily offended mentality to consider that a "dressing down."
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LTJG Jftoc Watch Officer
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PO1 Andrew Gardiner - it was the way the Chief conducted the training. It was very abrasive, and anywhere outside of the military, rude. He could have went about it a much better and effective way - though I suppose he drove the point home.
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SCPO Don Baker
SCPO Don Baker
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With that kind of attitude, you are not a First Class Petty Officer, you're just an E6. Someone who just slipped through the cracks. You don't know jack about the Mess and hopefully, you never will.
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LTJG Jftoc Watch Officer
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Thanks, Senior. Your input is greatly appreciated.
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SCPO Lonny Randolph
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Thank them for the greeting correct their mis-reading of the rank device and move on...
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CPO Nate S.
CPO Nate S.
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Yes!
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MCPO William Richards
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Correct them. It's what you earned and part of what they should know
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PO2 Dan Shulla
PO2 Dan Shulla
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Master Chief, Perhaps, isn't the point more of HOW you let them know?
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MCPO William Richards
MCPO William Richards
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I did sound a little harsh in my answer but again correct them (in private) and praise them in public
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SCPO Larry Knight Sr.
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I'm an old salt from the gulf of Tonkin group. I started as a BMSA in the earlier part of my career, I decided to make a change and became a shipfitter/damagecontrolman. I accelerated quite rapidly by broadening my career choices/duty assignments. This resulted in being selected for a tour as a recruit company commander at RTC/NYC San Diego Ca. This is where I added more to my leadership acumen, and enterining the fraternal order of the Chief Petty Officer's community. As I advanced I'm still to this date a proud member, some still call me chief and that's just fine and those in passing who see my decal on the back of my car call me senior and that's alright to. Since now after years of retirement I'm actually classified as a Senior lol.
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MCPO Roger Collins
MCPO Roger Collins
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The last two promotions were seriously appreciated, my greatest thrill came when I was promoted to RMC. Chief is good, but as with you and age, Senior or Master is OK, as is Roger.
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PO2 Dan Shulla
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"That's Senior Chief" taking in consideration they may have just not seen the star
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MCPO Roger Collins
MCPO Roger Collins
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Never was a biggie with me. My first name changed to Chief when I was promoted to E-7 and that was good for me through retirement and now.
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SCPO Jon Nelson
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You are still a chief, that is what is important, I was called chief many times after I made the star, and usually, before the conversation was done, they would acknowledge my rank, I did not have to correct them. The saying, " ask the Chief' says it all.
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CPO Nate S.
CPO Nate S.
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100%
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SCPO Esmerejildo Romero
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I done it...I correct them and say, that's Senior Chief.
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TSgt Scott Hurley
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When I was stationed at Eglin AFB, since the Navy EOD school was there. I saw a Chief Petty officer, I did not know what rank he was at the time. So I asked him what his rank was since I did not see stripes but the Anchor on his collar. He told me what his rank was. I was a SSgt at the time. But it was nice to know so that I did not accidentally salute him without knowing if he was an officer. I still like talking to the Navy LT. about being called a Capt. I asked him if liked being promoted by Airmen. And he said yes with a smile.
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