Posted on Jun 1, 2015
My new unit says I don't qualify for the Overseas Service Ribbon awarded to me by my previous unit. Are they right?
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I deployed to Afghanistan in 2012 with Temporary Change of Station (TCS) orders that said my tour would be no longer than 270 days (about 9 months). My tour ended up being 8 months and 1 day, as my unit redeployed a few weeks early. The unit I deployed with awarded me the Overseas Service Ribbon (OSR) for having completed a tour. I arrived at my current unit a few months ago, and prior to my recent appearance at the promotion board, S1 reviewed my records and removed the OSR from my ERB, stating that I didn't serve overseas long enough to qualify for the OSR. My Platoon Sergeant is the one who made me aware of S1's decision to remove my OSR, and he hasn't disagreed with S1's decision or made any moves to investigate the situation, so I did the research on my own.
AR 600-8-22 says that the OSR is awarded to Soldiers who are credited with a normal overseas tour completion according to AR 614-30. AR 614-30 says that a Soldier has completed a tour if he serves to within 60 days of the prescribed tour. I was deployed to within 21 days of my prescribed tour, and my early return wasn't under my control or by my request; my whole unit redeployed a few weeks early. According to my research, I should be able to keep my OSR.
I'm going to print my TCS deployment orders and take them to S1 to show that my prescribed tour was only 9 months, but beyond that, I haven't decided what to do. Has anyone else been in this situation, or can anyone explain where I went wrong in my evaluation? What would you do in my situation?
AR 600-8-22 says that the OSR is awarded to Soldiers who are credited with a normal overseas tour completion according to AR 614-30. AR 614-30 says that a Soldier has completed a tour if he serves to within 60 days of the prescribed tour. I was deployed to within 21 days of my prescribed tour, and my early return wasn't under my control or by my request; my whole unit redeployed a few weeks early. According to my research, I should be able to keep my OSR.
I'm going to print my TCS deployment orders and take them to S1 to show that my prescribed tour was only 9 months, but beyond that, I haven't decided what to do. Has anyone else been in this situation, or can anyone explain where I went wrong in my evaluation? What would you do in my situation?
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Does either the S1 or your superior have this award? Do they have combat patches? This may just be petty shit. If it is, fighting it may cause you more grief. How important is it to you, I mean, you know what you did.
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I’ve been retired for six years but had my record corrected by the army board for correction of military records.
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This is why people who don’t understand what a deployment is like, shouldn’t be the ones deciding who gets an award. He has earned the right to wear that ribbon by serving overseas.
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You just have to be there 60 days to get it. Its in the regs. Period, tjey can't take it away if it was awarded properly. If they try to take it.
Keep all the paper work regarding it. Tjen contact Missouri send copies and tjey get it put on you record and you go around yout unitt and they can't touch it there.
Keep all the paper work regarding it. Tjen contact Missouri send copies and tjey get it put on you record and you go around yout unitt and they can't touch it there.
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You are going to have to take this issue up with HRC and the Promotion board. Because you are going to be road blocked on your end. Good luck
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actually the ribbon can be issued after 45 or 60 days of overseas duty combined, i think 45 days. i believe that is what i read in a description of the ribbon. if you were indeed issued the ribbon, then it stands, even if you go to another unit. they will have to go threw a lot of red tape to have it removed. but in my experience if you do ware it after the fact, you may have hell to pay lol. so it is up to how big of biceps muscles you want to have in the end lol.
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Overseas Service Ribbon should and be allowed to be kept for all soldiers who deployed to a foreign country regardless of how long they had spent. They earned it. There are some things that I don't agree with S-1 because they seem to receive certain awards that were not earn or given to them. For example; when I was deployed in Iraq in 2009, for some odd reason S-1 was awarded the silver star and other such medals and they didn't leave the FOB or saw combat. Total disrespect to those who leave the wire on daily basis to risk life and limb.
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First how many soldiers on the same tour lost the award the whole unit it will be hard to fight but it’s worth the fight
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