Posted on Jun 1, 2015
My new unit says I don't qualify for the Overseas Service Ribbon awarded to me by my previous unit. Are they right?
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I deployed to Afghanistan in 2012 with Temporary Change of Station (TCS) orders that said my tour would be no longer than 270 days (about 9 months). My tour ended up being 8 months and 1 day, as my unit redeployed a few weeks early. The unit I deployed with awarded me the Overseas Service Ribbon (OSR) for having completed a tour. I arrived at my current unit a few months ago, and prior to my recent appearance at the promotion board, S1 reviewed my records and removed the OSR from my ERB, stating that I didn't serve overseas long enough to qualify for the OSR. My Platoon Sergeant is the one who made me aware of S1's decision to remove my OSR, and he hasn't disagreed with S1's decision or made any moves to investigate the situation, so I did the research on my own.
AR 600-8-22 says that the OSR is awarded to Soldiers who are credited with a normal overseas tour completion according to AR 614-30. AR 614-30 says that a Soldier has completed a tour if he serves to within 60 days of the prescribed tour. I was deployed to within 21 days of my prescribed tour, and my early return wasn't under my control or by my request; my whole unit redeployed a few weeks early. According to my research, I should be able to keep my OSR.
I'm going to print my TCS deployment orders and take them to S1 to show that my prescribed tour was only 9 months, but beyond that, I haven't decided what to do. Has anyone else been in this situation, or can anyone explain where I went wrong in my evaluation? What would you do in my situation?
AR 600-8-22 says that the OSR is awarded to Soldiers who are credited with a normal overseas tour completion according to AR 614-30. AR 614-30 says that a Soldier has completed a tour if he serves to within 60 days of the prescribed tour. I was deployed to within 21 days of my prescribed tour, and my early return wasn't under my control or by my request; my whole unit redeployed a few weeks early. According to my research, I should be able to keep my OSR.
I'm going to print my TCS deployment orders and take them to S1 to show that my prescribed tour was only 9 months, but beyond that, I haven't decided what to do. Has anyone else been in this situation, or can anyone explain where I went wrong in my evaluation? What would you do in my situation?
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You should write your congressman, presenting exactly what you have stated here, for starters. Follow that up with involving your previous first shirt and CO, provided you have no bad paper.
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I was AG. Mistakes are inadvertently made. Pursue it. You may be right.
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....as. Decorated VVET Navy COMMENDATION COMBAT "V"....issued by Admiral Zumwalt....70 missions....PBR/Gunboats...had to go thru a fucin Congressman to get COMBAT ACTION RIBBON...got it 50 years later....bumpers really has head up ass!!!...nothing surprises me...unless they indict HILLARY/COMEY!!!
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Id go to s1 & see what they say when you present the evidence. I would then go to jag if you get no satisfaction from s1 or i might ask to see the co. Commander before going to jag
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When we redeployed, we were told you had to be in country a total of 8 months and 15 days, or more. My unit came back early as well (8 months 13 days) and we weren’t awarded our overseas ribbon
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If the PAC Supervisor and Battalion Adjutant fail to correct the situation which they apparently screwed in the first place your next course could be to request a Congressional Inquiry from your local congressman. Commanders absolutely hate seeing them.i don't believe that ribbon would effect your promotion packet so you shouldn't lose any points there. Good.luck, former Personnel SGT
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My opinion, only HQ DEPT OF THE ARMY in Washington can remove it. Did S 1 issue you written orders rescinding it.
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