Posted on Jun 1, 2015
My new unit says I don't qualify for the Overseas Service Ribbon awarded to me by my previous unit. Are they right?
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I deployed to Afghanistan in 2012 with Temporary Change of Station (TCS) orders that said my tour would be no longer than 270 days (about 9 months). My tour ended up being 8 months and 1 day, as my unit redeployed a few weeks early. The unit I deployed with awarded me the Overseas Service Ribbon (OSR) for having completed a tour. I arrived at my current unit a few months ago, and prior to my recent appearance at the promotion board, S1 reviewed my records and removed the OSR from my ERB, stating that I didn't serve overseas long enough to qualify for the OSR. My Platoon Sergeant is the one who made me aware of S1's decision to remove my OSR, and he hasn't disagreed with S1's decision or made any moves to investigate the situation, so I did the research on my own.
AR 600-8-22 says that the OSR is awarded to Soldiers who are credited with a normal overseas tour completion according to AR 614-30. AR 614-30 says that a Soldier has completed a tour if he serves to within 60 days of the prescribed tour. I was deployed to within 21 days of my prescribed tour, and my early return wasn't under my control or by my request; my whole unit redeployed a few weeks early. According to my research, I should be able to keep my OSR.
I'm going to print my TCS deployment orders and take them to S1 to show that my prescribed tour was only 9 months, but beyond that, I haven't decided what to do. Has anyone else been in this situation, or can anyone explain where I went wrong in my evaluation? What would you do in my situation?
AR 600-8-22 says that the OSR is awarded to Soldiers who are credited with a normal overseas tour completion according to AR 614-30. AR 614-30 says that a Soldier has completed a tour if he serves to within 60 days of the prescribed tour. I was deployed to within 21 days of my prescribed tour, and my early return wasn't under my control or by my request; my whole unit redeployed a few weeks early. According to my research, I should be able to keep my OSR.
I'm going to print my TCS deployment orders and take them to S1 to show that my prescribed tour was only 9 months, but beyond that, I haven't decided what to do. Has anyone else been in this situation, or can anyone explain where I went wrong in my evaluation? What would you do in my situation?
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Let it be. Its just an OSR. There will be plenty of oportunity to recieve awards. Do your job, be the best damn person at that job and the awards will come. Besides, if you are doing this for awards, you are in the wrong field. We dont do this for awards, we do this for our brothers and sisters, and our country. If you want awards go coach a little league team. I hear everyone gets a trophy.
V/R,
FCC (SW) Bruce Maples
Chief Petty Officer USN
V/R,
FCC (SW) Bruce Maples
Chief Petty Officer USN
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S1 is probably correct. Don’t be mad about it. Walk the dog and get the final determination IN WRITING and move forward. Hold your head high.
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So,
He draws Hazzardous duty pay, standard duty deployment attire, other deployment entitlements plus medical enforcements(shots, etc). He deploys with his unit whom is authorized and recognized for such deployment, then that unit should be the one to retract his awards and recognition not the gaining unit!!!
He draws Hazzardous duty pay, standard duty deployment attire, other deployment entitlements plus medical enforcements(shots, etc). He deploys with his unit whom is authorized and recognized for such deployment, then that unit should be the one to retract his awards and recognition not the gaining unit!!!
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If your Platoon Sergeant isn’t willing to help then request to speak with the next higher not sure what the Army calls it but we hav. Company Gunnery Sergeant or even take it to your First Sergeant.
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According to what the orders say you are eligible for campaign ribbon. I would not give in.
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I thought deployments overseas didn’t count. I served in Germany and had to do my full three years there befor I was awarded the overseas ribbon... same with Alaska when I was stationed there...
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I don’t know Army Regs- but I believe you have both the Over Seas Deployment ribbon and something equivalent to the Sea Service Deployment- correct? OSR is for a non-combat related PCS tour over seas. SSDR is for combat related deployments. Having been to Afghan, you would rate the latter.
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I would print the Reg and highlight the applicable section and bring that to the attention of your coc( team leader, squad leader, and PSG). Then take it to your S1 along with a copy.of your deployment, redeployment, and OSR orders amd a previous copy of your ERB showing the award before they removed it. You may also need a 4187 or some other statement from your company that backs up what you found and requests the OSR be put back onto your ERB just incase BN S1 decides to be difficult about it.
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I would bring this reg to my platoon sergeant making him aware of what you’re going to do. He probably won’t take care of it. You may want to inform your platoon leader
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