Posted on Nov 20, 2017
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MSG Donald Bedford
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When I first joined the Reserve, after being out for 5 years. I struggled with the APFT. I took a civilian truck driving job working the Family Dollar account. That job requires the driver to unload the truck. After a month doing that job I was able to pass.
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CPL Infantryman
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You can try something like I am going to present to the guard units in my area. I am a certified personal trainer and group instructor. I created a program that works in a crawl, walk, run, style. We start foundation of exercise with correct form on body weight movements then eventually move up to weights. Whole system is based on progression in athletic ability. So people that are PT studs and people thT are coach potatoes can both progress at the same time. Instead of smoking the crap out of weak burning them out and making them not want to workout outside of drill. Get them to where you want them without injury and create a lifestyle
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SGT Mark Rhodes
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When I got out of Active Duty I went into the Reserves. I was in about a year when they gave me a PT test. I passed mine but many others did not. The standard should be pass the test and if you fail you go on remedial PT for X months then retested. If the soldiers fail start separating them. This will get their attention and also enforce the Army Standards for PT
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LCDR Tim McKenzie
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Lsugh at them. Tell them thst they are disgusting fat bodies who move like old people f&ck.
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SFC UH-60 Helicopter Repairer
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NCOs need to stop being afraid of their subordinates. Train, Motivate and Lead. If all else fails use your options. If all else fails cut them loose to make room for those who want be in and make the standard. Clean up the UMR of dead weight
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SGT David Nicholas
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As a former TXANG soldier, the only way to "fix it" is to hold soldiers accountable! If they cant adhere to Army standards then they should be booted out and lose any bonuses they received! Their contract is the same as USAR and RA!
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1SG Graphic Designer
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Let me add my Mortar Section is at 100% pass rate. However my company is a different story. Then again mortarman lead from the front.
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SPC Robert Coventry
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MSG Intermediate Care Technician
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Without making a Wall of Shame for those that were booted for APFT failure, not much you can do except continue to stress the importance of PRT outside of BTA.
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SSG Gregg Mourizen
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What I don't understand is, after all of the money the military has put into training these SM's, why don't they do more to keep them. At least the good ones. Especially Reserve units, who have enough trouble keeping their numbers up.

I've always heard of remedial PT courses, you can send a soldier to. Yet, I never knew anyone who went and never saw a command interested in their soldier enough to send them to one.

They are willing to send someone with anger and violence issues to Anger Management.
They are willing to send somone with emotional. psychological issues to counseling.
They are willing to send someone who failed a drug test to ADAPC (Is it still called that?).
Yet, other than threats and counseling statements, I have never seen much effort given to PT issues other than basic remedial PT with little commitment. It's even worse in Reserve/Guard.
I was in several reserve and guard units, and only saw one with a gym, and most SM's with a job, couldn't get there during a regular work day.

At some point, the soldier stops caring because the unit doesn't.
Getting sent to a PT course might just be the motivator to get that PT test passed. Hell, offer promotion points (like they do for those listed above).
Get them evaluated, to see if there is a phsical problem.

One thing is for sure, They might be willing to go once, but the possibility of being sent back will motivate them to try even harder.
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SFC William Allen
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AS a 28 year National Guard NCO there is no way to "fix" this. The soldier has to do it themselves if they want to advance in rank. Every time I took an NCO development course at our state military academy, I took a PT test. I ALWAYS passed. I wanted to get promoted.
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