Posted on Aug 15, 2014
NCOES required for Promotion, but the system is not dependable. What can one do?
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Now the army is going to the SSD 1-4 to be required before promotion, on an unreliable system....
Some of my E4s are ready for promotion, but they have not completed SSD Lvl 1, this is not their doing, the system will not allow them to enroll into the class, and the training NCO and QSM doesn't understand why. They have attempted everything possible to get these soldiers into SSD 1, but it will not work. Therefore these soldiers did not make the promotion list because SSD 1 is not completed....
Myself and a few other E6s can not get into ALC, because common core is jacked up...
Many Soldiers have this issue, the system is too jacked up to make it a requirement.... It is delaying promotions.... why require something that doesn't always work... is that the Army's way of slowing down promotions?
Some of my E4s are ready for promotion, but they have not completed SSD Lvl 1, this is not their doing, the system will not allow them to enroll into the class, and the training NCO and QSM doesn't understand why. They have attempted everything possible to get these soldiers into SSD 1, but it will not work. Therefore these soldiers did not make the promotion list because SSD 1 is not completed....
Myself and a few other E6s can not get into ALC, because common core is jacked up...
Many Soldiers have this issue, the system is too jacked up to make it a requirement.... It is delaying promotions.... why require something that doesn't always work... is that the Army's way of slowing down promotions?
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SFC (Join to see),
Because you're NG a lot of advice from the AD folks (while good) probably won't help you. As a TNG NCO watching this whole SSD disaster unfold and mess with soldiers career progression, I tell you this in hopes it may help: I had one contact in my state (a recently retired E-8) who was able to get soldiers enrolled in whatever level SSD they needed. Find that person in MD (probably in the G-1 shop), and hope their permissions are squared away. I wish I knew what his process was, or what system and level of permissions he had (could simply be ATRRS with a high level of access/permissions), but that was literally the only way we could get soldiers squared away.
Your full-timers should know who that POC is, since it's likely someone they are in contact with.
Because you're NG a lot of advice from the AD folks (while good) probably won't help you. As a TNG NCO watching this whole SSD disaster unfold and mess with soldiers career progression, I tell you this in hopes it may help: I had one contact in my state (a recently retired E-8) who was able to get soldiers enrolled in whatever level SSD they needed. Find that person in MD (probably in the G-1 shop), and hope their permissions are squared away. I wish I knew what his process was, or what system and level of permissions he had (could simply be ATRRS with a high level of access/permissions), but that was literally the only way we could get soldiers squared away.
Your full-timers should know who that POC is, since it's likely someone they are in contact with.
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yeah our main POC for SSD, it horrible at getting shit done. I know who the AGR guys go to, and he is not someone you can depend on.... ill search in G1 see if I know anyone else that can help....
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SFC (Join to see)
That's unfortunate, as there may not be anyone else in the state who can help. Sometimes its tough being in a "small" guard state.
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I am so glad I commissioned right before this came out. Totally dodged that bullet.
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MAJ Rene De La Rosa
1LT Eric Rosa readily agree with you kn this. After reading through these posts, I cannot imagine the horror of paperwork that has to be completed and then the problematic computer system. It truly sounds like a boondoggle.
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I was in a similar situation until recently, SFC (Join to see). I completed ALC Resident Course in February of this year, graduating as Distinguished Honor Graduate. However, because I had not completed ALC-CC, I was not considered to be an ALC Graduate. Therefore, the 112 promotion points I earned through hard work could not be applied.
Once the system was switched over to SSD-2, HRC enrolled me, and I completed it prior to the cutoff for points update. Once the system showed me as a graduate, I had my points, and I made cutoff for SSG.
One thing you need to keep in mind for those young specialists is that SSD 1, 3 and 4 are not new. They have been around for quite a while; almost 3 years now, if I am not mistaken. And it wasn't until just recently (less than a year ago) that the ability to self enroll in these classes was taken from Soldiers. If they do not have it already done, they were being complacent. I am a firm believer that individual responsibility needs to be more predominant in the military. While yes, the NCO of that young Soldier should have ensured that the importance of SSD 1 was outlined to those Soldiers, that should have been where the NCOs responsibility ended.
I had a Soldier that got pissed off at me because his promotion board packet was done in time to go to the board. When the decision was made to send him to the board, I explained to him he could go if he collected all the necessary paperwork to go. It was my way of testing his resourcefulness. It wasn't until a week later that he asked me what paperwork he needed. I, at that time, gave him a list. The only parts of the list he retrieved were his PT card and Weapons card. If a Soldier is that determined to get promoted, he should be acting like an NCO already. If he isn't willing to find the information for himself, then I don't want him as an NCO.
Once the system was switched over to SSD-2, HRC enrolled me, and I completed it prior to the cutoff for points update. Once the system showed me as a graduate, I had my points, and I made cutoff for SSG.
One thing you need to keep in mind for those young specialists is that SSD 1, 3 and 4 are not new. They have been around for quite a while; almost 3 years now, if I am not mistaken. And it wasn't until just recently (less than a year ago) that the ability to self enroll in these classes was taken from Soldiers. If they do not have it already done, they were being complacent. I am a firm believer that individual responsibility needs to be more predominant in the military. While yes, the NCO of that young Soldier should have ensured that the importance of SSD 1 was outlined to those Soldiers, that should have been where the NCOs responsibility ended.
I had a Soldier that got pissed off at me because his promotion board packet was done in time to go to the board. When the decision was made to send him to the board, I explained to him he could go if he collected all the necessary paperwork to go. It was my way of testing his resourcefulness. It wasn't until a week later that he asked me what paperwork he needed. I, at that time, gave him a list. The only parts of the list he retrieved were his PT card and Weapons card. If a Soldier is that determined to get promoted, he should be acting like an NCO already. If he isn't willing to find the information for himself, then I don't want him as an NCO.
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MAJ Rene De La Rosa
SSG Aaron Houde, you showed a lot of patience for that young specialist. S/he however disappointed themselves. If they want to be ticked off at anyone, it should be themselves.
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