Posted on Jan 17, 2015
Not all Muslims are terrorists; but all terrorists are Muslim?
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It has been said more times than I care to count, but is it true? Not even remotely close....
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all-terrorists-muslims-it-s-not-even-close.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all-terrorists-muslims-it-s-not-even-close.html
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I would say the article's author is bending the truth to suit his thesis. Is it the media that crashed those planes on 9/11 2001? Nope. It was Islamic terrorists. We can tiptoe around it, but there's no denying the fact that, for example, ISIS is a brutal Islamic terrorist organization. Comparing nut jobs like those terrorists (and their ilk) to Jewish settlers is not intellectually honest.
This statement, for example, attempts (I assume) to compare murderers in the USA to terrorists. I think we would all agree there's a difference:
"And as a 2014 study by University of North Carolina found, since the 9/11 attacks, Muslim-linked terrorism has claimed the lives of 37 Americans. In that same time period, more than 190,000 Americans were murdered."
This statement, for example, attempts (I assume) to compare murderers in the USA to terrorists. I think we would all agree there's a difference:
"And as a 2014 study by University of North Carolina found, since the 9/11 attacks, Muslim-linked terrorism has claimed the lives of 37 Americans. In that same time period, more than 190,000 Americans were murdered."
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
My best guess here is that for the State Dept numbers they are citing, they are considering drug cartels, gangs and separatist as terrorist. That wouldn't be wrong. The IRA is a terrorist org.
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COL Ted Mc
CW5 (Join to see) Mr. Montgomery; I tend to both agree and disagree with you. There is a bit of conflation of "murderers" and "terrorists" in the article, but the fact remains that the ODDS ON you being killed by a "murderer" are higher than those for you being killed by a "terrorist".
As far as "equating" a group of murderous sociopaths with a group of murderous nut jobs or with a group of "Jewish settlers", it isn't the identity of the members of the group that counts it is the METHODS which are used that counts.
"Terrorism" is neither an ideology or a philosophy - it is a method/tactic and, regardless of ethnic/national/religious/political background those who use that method/tactic are "terrorists". (Unless, of course, you agree with what they are trying to do in which case they are "freedom fighters".)
As far as "equating" a group of murderous sociopaths with a group of murderous nut jobs or with a group of "Jewish settlers", it isn't the identity of the members of the group that counts it is the METHODS which are used that counts.
"Terrorism" is neither an ideology or a philosophy - it is a method/tactic and, regardless of ethnic/national/religious/political background those who use that method/tactic are "terrorists". (Unless, of course, you agree with what they are trying to do in which case they are "freedom fighters".)
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SSgt (Join to see)
SSG P, B Those who say terrorists are not terrorists are obtuse idiots. They know good and well it is terrorism and largely Muslim but lying comes easy to the Emperor's court of Jesters.
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There is a direct and immediate connection between violence and the act of political coercion. When we think of this, we can realize that religion isn't a factor to defining terrorism; it's just another interchangeable variable. Think of the Weather Underground, Red Army Faction, Aum Shinrikyo, Continuity Irish Republican Army. It only happens to be Islamic which is our current and international trend as Capt Richard I P. pointed out.
The organization must engage in terrorist activity as defined in the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) or terrorism as defined in theForeign Relations Authorization Act. And our State Department has a list which (by the way) is updated as status has shown to change. Some groups are NEVER going to be down delisted; NEVER EVER EVER!!
It would be naive for us to wage a religious war in the 21st Century. It's like a race war (as some of our domestic terrorist organizations are formulating). To fight against all Muslims is exactly what Abu Bakr el-Baghdady wants to happen. Short answer: no, not all terrorists are Muslim.
The organization must engage in terrorist activity as defined in the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) or terrorism as defined in theForeign Relations Authorization Act. And our State Department has a list which (by the way) is updated as status has shown to change. Some groups are NEVER going to be down delisted; NEVER EVER EVER!!
It would be naive for us to wage a religious war in the 21st Century. It's like a race war (as some of our domestic terrorist organizations are formulating). To fight against all Muslims is exactly what Abu Bakr el-Baghdady wants to happen. Short answer: no, not all terrorists are Muslim.
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SSgt (Join to see)
Muslims must take care of this thing and stop trying to say that everyone else is too and it is not Muslim. I am getting so sick of this silliness.
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Author is missing the point of why islamic terrorism is different. Its not because they are muslim or the % of terrorist acts they perpetrate. Its because you can take a video camera into a LOT of muslim countries or enclaves and find people cheering for, praising, encouraging and justifying such acts. No one was praising the killing in Norway, no one is praising the other terrorist acts he names except the people who are members of those groups, ie a very small minority. But when a large portion of 1.5 billion people praise a terrorist act its a big deal. He is conflating issues so badly it puts into question what his real goal is.
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LtCol Dennis Ivan
New Poll of Muslim Countries Finds Large Support for Terrorists | Clarion Project
The country with the worst trend is Turkey. It is the only country where support for suicide bombings has increased.
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LtCol Dennis Ivan
I'll low ball it and call it 5%.. 5% of 1.5 billion is 75 million.... 75 million mostly support or sometimes support suicide bombing and have "favorable" views of hamas, hezbollah, al qaeda, and the taliban.... But hey, its just 75 million (very low ball).... But yeah, your random youtube videos are much more convincing than a pew research poll of muslim populations across the muslim world with thousands of responses.
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LtCol Dennis Ivan
Actually no. I'm citing Pew Research. The thing about research is, you could follow the link I provided like any HS student would or you could have followed through to the link to the Pew research article provided in the story which is where they got the numbers. Given you didn't even read the article, based on your response, I doubt you even saw it. But you are free to call Pew research a right wing organization. They do list the exact questions they ask and the sample size etc. Kinda hard to refute. Again, you can continue to display your maturity, or lack of it. It doesn't bother me, but it's becoming rather sad at this point.
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