Posted on Mar 25, 2014
Not sure if hiring managers really think like this or not ? If true we have a serious problem looking for work as Veterans.
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I truly feel a article like the one below is what we as veterans and soon to be veterans should be talking about. Because if this is how hiring managers really think about us. Then we have a real serious problem once we leave the military, serve our country and pay are dues. Would love to hear and discusss if this has happened to any of my fellow retirees. If so how do we deal with it ? and most importantly how can we fix this ?
Posted 12 y ago
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From my own experience, while enrolled in a CWT program through Voc Rehab... Macy's of St Petersburg, FL hired me as a salesperson knowing full well of my problems with stress. So this maybe an isolated situation.
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Now thats really sad and those are the people we go to war for and protect?
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SFC GV, I just read that small article in the JPEG image, and I have to say that manager is super ignorant. This is my example: I had a break in service from 2004 to 2007. I held different jobs before landing a job as a civilian contractor on Fort Riley, KS. After I graduated college I took a part time job at Dillard's as a sale associate which actually built my social skills because after all, I had to talk to folks. The managers loved my rapport building skills with customers. Customers would come in on my day off and ask if "Will" was working. I could start a conversation with anyone of any age form 8 to 80 years old. I approached people with a gentle heart, open minded, and I respected everyone no matter how they were dressed. Oh wait, I was deployed twice so why didn't I just go drill sergeant on everyone? Go figure.
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When I first got out in 2013 I was in an interview to be a new Target stores Night Shift Inventory Leader. Dressed good, clean shaven, new haircut, and have my resume in hand. Interview went stellar and I felt like I nailed it. But as I was leaving, the lady after me was called in and I heard her, "Oh hello Jim!"..."Is that you Alice?". That's when I knew I was back to square one.
Seriously, I had the fact that I had numerous Soldiers under my charge and was also signed for roughly $150,000 - $2.5million at any given time. What does it take for us to get a job!?
Seriously, I had the fact that I had numerous Soldiers under my charge and was also signed for roughly $150,000 - $2.5million at any given time. What does it take for us to get a job!?
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I have submitted well over 20 cv's and cover letters for positions that I know that I could do even before I completed my project management and Lean Sigma Six Courses at Villanova. The ONE interview I was granted told me that all of my experience working with other nationalities and coordinating large efforts was nice, but I wouldn't be able to hack what a civilian project manager does. I know a lot of civilians, I am one now, and I haven't seen the type of dedication and stamina it took to do my wartime job in any of those folks, but I couldn't handle the civilian side...whatever! Geesh, I hate to quote my children when they were teenagers, but it seems like all of this talk about hiring a vet is just that...talk.
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In a private security setting, I was told by a former LEO supervisor that I was "too military" in a position where at least half my co-workers were either veterans or serving National Guard soldiers.
Oh well. He's gone, and my current supervisor is satisfied with my job performance at the same poistion, so it's all good.
Oh well. He's gone, and my current supervisor is satisfied with my job performance at the same poistion, so it's all good.
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Waste Management, Inc offers a wealth of employment opportunites for qualified personnel tranisitioning from the military. Candidates interested in seeking employment should visit our website at http://www.wmcareers.com. They may also contact Rod Cross at [login to see] .
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Waste Management, Inc offers a wealth of employment opportunites for qualified personnel tranisitioning from the military. Candidates interested in seeking employment should visit our website at http://www.wmcareers.com. They may also contact Rod Cross at [login to see] .
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As someone who has been in a hiring manager position for many years I am not aware of any anti-military bias from other managers. Obviously being a veteran myself I certainly a pro-military bias, but that bias does guarantee I would hire a veteran over a non-veteran. The most important attribute to a job candidate is their relevant experience, even greater than their educational background. That isn't to say education isn't important, but in my professional your skills and experience are constantly moving target.
My advice to those approaching the transition to the private sector is that you should step back and think of your military experience in a more abstract sense in terms of the life lessons you experience and the skills you developed from it.
For me my experience in the military taught me how to handle stress and not make bad decisions because of it. To be stationed overseas as an 18-year-old was a test of my maturity and responsibility, to work with classified information a test of my character and integrity, to demonstrate progression in all my positions a demonstration of my initiative and ambition.
Now that it has been many years since my service I don't have to spend a lot of time translating to others what my experiences did for me. In the beginning of my career it was very important to relate this experience to hiring managers and others and most certainly helped me land great opportunities.
My advice to those approaching the transition to the private sector is that you should step back and think of your military experience in a more abstract sense in terms of the life lessons you experience and the skills you developed from it.
For me my experience in the military taught me how to handle stress and not make bad decisions because of it. To be stationed overseas as an 18-year-old was a test of my maturity and responsibility, to work with classified information a test of my character and integrity, to demonstrate progression in all my positions a demonstration of my initiative and ambition.
Now that it has been many years since my service I don't have to spend a lot of time translating to others what my experiences did for me. In the beginning of my career it was very important to relate this experience to hiring managers and others and most certainly helped me land great opportunities.
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here is the CEO of Macys email address [login to see] I have written to them last night and I have not heard from them and I won't because it the upper crest whose is at fault
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