Posted on Mar 25, 2014
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I truly feel a article like the one below is what we as veterans and soon to be veterans should be talking about. Because if this is how hiring managers really think about us. Then we have a real serious problem once we leave the military, serve our country and pay are dues. Would love to hear and discusss if this has happened to any of my fellow retirees. If so how do we deal with it ? and most importantly how can we fix this ?
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SFC David Pope, MBA
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Many of your states has a job service office for unemployment and looking for job listings. In Utah they call it Workforce Services, and they have case workers who are trained to find jobs for veterans. I recommend if you have a GI Bill then use it. Employers are looking for skills they can use. If you are in high tech in the military then you can probably get hired on at a company that does similar work. If you are a grunt or in a combat arms role and you are not interested in law enforcement, fire or security. I suggest going back to school, that's what I did.
The VA helped me get my degree through Voc Rehab, and my counselor has been wonderful in explaining my rights as a veteran.

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SGT Jay Ehrenfeld
SGT Jay Ehrenfeld
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im not a grunt I am an administrative and office
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SFC David Pope, MBA
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Unfortunately there are the ignorant that only see the world from their little bubbles they live in. My experience in retail was much different. I got the job because I had been all over the world, and it helped that the hiring manager had a son in Afghanistan with the USMC. I am pursuing a Doctorate in Business Administration with a concentration in Organizational leadership and business ethics. My goal is to one day be able to lecture to HR managers about the benefits of hiring veterans. Part of my research involves two retired generals who work in the private sector. I have gathered all my research from my MBA courses and when I start school in Jan 2015 I will already be working on my dissertation. My guess is that the hiring manager in this case has something against the military, and she made up the other crap to sell her position on the matter. I remember guys coming back from Nam and getting the same line of BS.
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SGT Jay Ehrenfeld
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it the culture of he left wing business and the baby boomer also the CEO son or daughter come back as a combat vet then be shit on
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SGT Jay Ehrenfeld
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Retreating, and scramble for jobs, additional protection for a veterans are a concern displaced in (RIF), said personnel director, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “It’s unfair, more should
Be on performance and not on status”, director said. (That is a Lie) (it based on status and not on performance). Veteran’s Groups said manager’s Discrimination against Veterans. Just because they are Veterans
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SGT Jay Ehrenfeld
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Retreating, and scramble for jobs, additional protection for a veterans are a concern displaced in (RIF), said personnel director, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “It’s unfair, more should
Be on performance and not on status”, director said. (That is a Lie) (it based on status and not on performance). Veteran’s Groups said manager’s Discrimination against Veterans. Just because they are Veterans
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Sgt Christopher Collins
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I would say it is probably true. I am in a Linkedin group and one veteran tried and tried and tried. So he decided to take his military career off his resume and his began getting responses.

Sad but true.
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SGT Jay Ehrenfeld
SGT Jay Ehrenfeld
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I know it true because they don't teach them (college that military is not a real job) but it I have filed an complaint under the VRA that hospital is now in trouble for violated my protect status and the hR response to the complaint was we were never taught that military is a real job. That the problem the college nor the university teach them military is a real job.
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SGT Jay Ehrenfeld
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Retreating, and scramble for jobs, additional protection for a veterans are a concern displaced in (RIF), said personnel director, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “It’s unfair, more should
Be on performance and not on status”, director said. (That is a Lie) (it based on status and not on performance). Veteran’s Groups said manager’s Discrimination against Veterans. Just because they are Veterans
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SSG Michael Serman
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I'm sorry so many of you have had a difficult time with potential employers.  With that being said, I don't think this attitude is as wide spread as everyone is making it out to be.

The job market is tough no matter who you are.  I live in one of the most economically depressed areas in the nation.  When a position opens at the nearby mine, for example, there are over 2k applicants for a single position.

There are companies out there looking specifically for vets.  I was hired by a large pharma company after six months of unemployment because of my vet status.  I received preference over people with 10yrs sales experience when I had none.

In any case is that the kind of place you want to work?  If I encountered that in an interview I would have to politely excuse myself and let them know just how wrong they are.
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SFC David Pope, MBA
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SSG Michael Serman, I must agree with you. I had a hard time finding work in the past, and it was the economy and not because I was a veteran. I was pushed to the front of the line many time because I was a vet. Many major corporations have a military liaison office that does independent hiring of veterans. Walmart is just one of those. Look on the websites of a corporation you would like to work for and see if they have a military link.
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SSG (ret) William Martin
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That article is also over ten years old. 
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SSG William M, thanks for sharing this. The fact is though 10yrs ago or present day. This type of issue is still happening in the society we live in.
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SrA Zachary Bolling
SrA Zachary Bolling
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What makes you think this is 10 years old?
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SSG (ret) William Martin
SSG (ret) William Martin
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Is the famale in that picture wearing multicam or camo?  Orginally I thought she was wearing camo and if so then I retract my statement however, between 04" - 07" during my break in service no one brought up my service in the combat zone would interfere with the civilian job force.  I am not say it doesn't happens.  Prior SMs need to know how to respond to those statement without making the potential employer feel ignorant.
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SSG Douglas Espinosa
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Unfortunately I see this here a lot.  I worked for a retail company for a little while over a year then lost the job due to sales being down.  That was this last October.  Ever since that time I have not been able to find a job.  I get told a lot that I am either over qualified, or that I am not a people person due to my extensive time in the service, afraid that I may snap, and the list goes on.  I have a valid security clearance, speak, read and write a foreign language fluently I am willing to learn and work hard.  If it weren't for the Post 9/11 GI Bill I would not be able to make it.  My room mate is in the same boat.  He served in the Army as well.  We served in the same Company in Germany.  When he learned I got out and moved here he came here in hopes to find a better job.  Now both of us are living off of the GI Bill constantly looking for work.
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SSG Douglas Espinosa
SSG Douglas Espinosa
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Thanks for the info Veronica
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SGT Mark Rhodes
SGT Mark Rhodes
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Wow. I have been off the site for a little while because of work. First of all not all hiring managers have that mind set. I am a hiring manager so I surely don't. I would hire a vet over a non vet every time because I know they would be dependable and reliable.  I no there are some managers out there that may not have the proper training to even do an interview but they think they know what they can and cannot say and don't know that there are certain questions that cannot be asked. Shame on Macy for allowing this behavior and lack of training to happen.  That someone will lose their job over this and hopefully they will train their managers better in the future.  For those vets looking for a job check out CVS they are military friendly

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SGT Jay Ehrenfeld
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Retreating, and scramble for jobs, additional protection for a veterans are a concern displaced in (RIF), said personnel director, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “It’s unfair, more should
Be on performance and not on status”, director said. (That is a Lie) (it based on status and not on performance). Veteran’s Groups said manager’s Discrimination against Veterans. Just because they are Veterans
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SGT Jay Ehrenfeld
SGT Jay Ehrenfeld
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you were in the military that the different all yahoo don't know shit all they know what their professor tell them
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