Posted on Jun 25, 2019
Now that only one attempt is allowed for weapons qual, how do we get units to train to standard?
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I interpret that as a firer can fire more than once to qualify. After qualification, SM is done firing.
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SFC Mike Lewis
Sir, you obviously haven't read the entire document then. Two attempts are allowed, but only if the Soldier fails on the first, and the Soldier is only Marksman (it says QUALIFIED) no matter the score on the second attempt if he or she passes.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
SFC Mike Lewis - Thanks for bringing clarity to the situation. I think all the soldiers should get qualified.
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This was one of my biggest bitches in the military. Our focus was PT,PT,PT!!!!!! You workout ever day, if want to excel you would do it twice a day, and weekend were encouraged. People were given passes for 290-300 scores, PT was worth 50 promotion points. Now turn the page to weapon qualification. No time at all spent ever outside of range day. You were not encouraged to take your weapon out of the arms room and do dry fire exercises, no practice days on the range, absolutely nothing, no passes were given for expert qualifications, nothing at all. Expert was worth 50 promotion points. we had 10 times the number of 290-300 pt scores then we did Expert qualifiers, but nobody gave a shit if you could shoot. Shooting is as perishable as PT, I cannot fathom the Army's difference in outlook between these parts of the job. Oh well rounds cost money, sweat is free.
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SPC James Anderson
SSgt Joseph Baptist - I am giving you my experience from when I served. 1998-2002. I was the Unit Armorer, I know without a doubt that weapons were never withdrawn for any type of practice. We had no simulators. And as I said, pt on your own time was HIGHLY encouraged, but if you qualified even marksman you were fine, see you again in 6 months. No need to improve.
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