Posted on May 10, 2015
Oath Keepers. It's been said Veterans are keeping their Oaths. Will you keep your Oath after Military Service?
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Keeping your oath, while on active duty, and keeping the oath after you leave service. How important is it and will it be something that you will continue after you leave the military service? With the degradation of society and the state of civil unrest, it's important that members of society have members that can be counted on the hold the line of what is right and stand up for those who cannot defend or speak for themselves. Oath Keepers are not just police or first responders, they are common people who have taken the oath and are firmly committed to upholding it.
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The issue I have here is that people want to uphold part but not all the oath. Vets want to uphold the constitution but conveniently forget the part about obeying the orders of the president.
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SFC Charles S.
LCpl Mark Lefler That's not part of upholding the Constitution. It's part of your Oath of Enlistment yes, but if the same government is the one that is ordinger you to fire on civilians for unconstitutional reasons that is where that oath differs. I'm not saying that it will happen but that is what Oath Keepers need to be prepared for incase it does.
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LCpl Mark Lefler
Firing on civilians is not a lawful order so it wouldn't have to be upheld. It's just it gets to me a bit when i see people talk about upholding their oath but in the same breathe they pretty much say screw the president. Baring orders that are not lawful, upholding the oath is upholding the whole oath not just part of it because someone doesn't like the commander in chief.
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SFC Charles S.
LCpl Mark Lefler The POTUS isn't the only office that could commit unconstitutional acts. Any arm or agency of the Government is capable. I don't like or care for the POSTU but if I were still active I would follow his orders to the point they became unconstitutional. Upholding the constitution is where my question was pointed. It was not about liking or disliking the current administration.
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I am not sure what this question is. Is this more about a membership drive for Oathkeepers or is it an actual question? I am not trying to be an ass, I am legitimately confused here.
Let me address the first part of this first, if it is the first part I will hold back on my decision as to if I am going to do something like that until a later date.
As far as will I feel the same allegiances to the military that I felt when I was in, yes I will. The same bitter feelings that I felt when I was in and the same good feelings that I was in, bottom line is I appreciate all the Army has done for me and I have done everything that I have done in foreign countries with no guilt and no regret. I would gladly do it all over (only more quick on the trigger back when I was first in country the first time).
When I finally hang it up though and am released into the wild though, I naturally will not be able to just flush all of the years out of my system, my allegiances, my what has become natural everyday feelings they will remain. If called upon again, I am sure I would roll right back in and do it all over again.
Let me address the first part of this first, if it is the first part I will hold back on my decision as to if I am going to do something like that until a later date.
As far as will I feel the same allegiances to the military that I felt when I was in, yes I will. The same bitter feelings that I felt when I was in and the same good feelings that I was in, bottom line is I appreciate all the Army has done for me and I have done everything that I have done in foreign countries with no guilt and no regret. I would gladly do it all over (only more quick on the trigger back when I was first in country the first time).
When I finally hang it up though and am released into the wild though, I naturally will not be able to just flush all of the years out of my system, my allegiances, my what has become natural everyday feelings they will remain. If called upon again, I am sure I would roll right back in and do it all over again.
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SFC Charles S.
SFC (Join to see) No, it's a legitimate question, and it's definitely not an Oath Keepers membership drive. I ask probably more for the fact of how active and veterans alike view what their oath means and if it "to you" is indefinite. I know how I feel about it but wanted to see if this feeling is more because I am Retired, a Paratrooper, or just extremely patriotic.
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Makes sense. I stand behind my statements on my beliefs as well. Those who went before have blazed the that we follow in today and continue to follow after we do our time. We in turn hopefully blaze the path for our juniors. I concur with your feelings on those sentiments for sure.
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I still take it seriously. My mindset didn't change once I got out. I come from a long line of family that have served this country since before the Civil War, I see my oath as a contract that will never expire.
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SFC Charles S.
SGT John Wesley yes, exactly. It is worth continuing that long tradition and keeping that thought alive. Great to hear that.
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I'm already out. Still keeping the oath. However, I still strongly support the right not to obey any unlawful orders!
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SFC Charles S.
SPC (Join to see) Great start, keep up with it... Find a group that is of the same mind as you and further the greater cause. Which is more like minded Citizens.
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This is bunk. When you enlist you activate an 8 year military obligation. When it is completed you are issued a DISCHARGE. That means you have discharged the duty of your oath. TheOath is the beginning, the discharge is the end. It was in my enlistment contract. If you don’t have an ID it probably just in your mind
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Yellow Cop Killers, Police Wannabes who pretend to be real cops. They don't belong in Police Work or the Military. Again and and again they have tried to scam their way into representing themselves as having authority. Do you have time to discuss the constitutionality of your last order?
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