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For this question I am not talking about the term it self, but rather the group, Oath Keepers (http://www.oathkeepers.org). If yah, are you a member and/or why do you support them? If nah, what makes you say so?
Update: I am not sponsoring nor trying to promote Oath Keepers on Rally Point. This question is not an invitation to join Oath Keepers.org. I am just curious about everyone's opinions about the group itself. This is merely a question I posed as a way to gain insight into how other service members and veterans see the group.
Update: I am not sponsoring nor trying to promote Oath Keepers on Rally Point. This question is not an invitation to join Oath Keepers.org. I am just curious about everyone's opinions about the group itself. This is merely a question I posed as a way to gain insight into how other service members and veterans see the group.
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Not up for any wack job rookies. Camo and running around in the woods does not make you a Militia. It does however make me think you may not be wired too tight and I don't want to see you pulling up to a building in a Ryder truck.
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SGT Kevin Brown
Thank you for your response GySgt Ekblad. I apologize if I misunderstood your comment, but just so you know this isn't an offer to join. I asked this question in order to gauge peoples views and opinions about the group. I am not trying to promote the group directly.
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
No, I didn't take it that way. I know about the group but I really don't have any opinion on them (good or bad). I'm just not much of a joiner (other than the American Legion and the VFW).
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The Constitution is addressed in the various oaths we give. The oath keepers spell it in more legal clarity as affirmation and clarity. They pretty much are work with authorities. The only people that should have a problem with them are those who would violate the constitution. They are very ethically minded. They follow the law. I am not one but I wouldn't fear anyone committing to follow the law.
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SGT (Join to see)
‘ They follow the law. I am not one but I wouldn't fear anyone committing to follow the law.’
This aged well.
This aged well.
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SPC(P) (Join to see), Oath Keepers was founded by Stewart Rhodes, a Yale law school graduate and former paratrooper, on Lexington Green, April 19, 2009. It is "a non-partisan association of current and formerly serving military, police, and first responders" dedicated to keeping the oath to defend the Constitution. Specifically, there are ten orders that Oath Keepers deems would violate the oath if obeyed. They therefore resolve the following:
1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.
2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people .
3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.
4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.
5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control."
9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.
10. We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.
Long version available at http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/declaration-of-orders-we-will-not-obey/
I think that Oath Keepers is a well-intentioned, admirable, patriotic, and law-abiding group.
Oath Keepers organized armed security (volunteers who brought their own gear) during the Ferguson riots for small businesses (mostly minority-owned) who couldn't afford to pay a security company. Their efforts were effective.
1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.
2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people .
3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.
4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.
5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control."
9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.
10. We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.
Long version available at http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/declaration-of-orders-we-will-not-obey/
I think that Oath Keepers is a well-intentioned, admirable, patriotic, and law-abiding group.
Oath Keepers organized armed security (volunteers who brought their own gear) during the Ferguson riots for small businesses (mostly minority-owned) who couldn't afford to pay a security company. Their efforts were effective.
Declaration Of Orders We Will Not Obey | Oath Keepers
“The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their Houses, and Farms, are to be pillaged and destroyed, and they consigned to a State of Wretchedness from which no human efforts will probably deliver them. The fate of unborn Millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this army” – Gen....
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SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
LTC Eugene Chu - cool story. The situation is blatantly political. It was far from an insurrection, and folks on the other side of the spectrum have "mostly peaceful" protests with extensive property damage in cities across the country... and get off scot-free. Let me guess. You think AR-15s are weapons of war with no place in civilian hands, while simultaneously believing they'd be useless to fight government forces, while simultaneously believing that unarmed protestors nearly overthrew the government on January 6th.
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The problem which becomes apparent in the oathkeeper's oath is one of blatant paranoia.
•1. We will NOT obey any order to disarm the American people.
•2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people.
•3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.
•4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.
•5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
•6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
•7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
•8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control."
•9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.
•10. We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.
Look at number 1 in the list. It is clearly aimed at an envisioned mass stripping of weapons from the American populace. Now imagine it in the context of taking a weapon away from a dangerous criminal as police do routinely. Are they now wrong? The context of the Oathkeeper's agenda is an end of rules American plight by which we disintegrate into near anarchy, and I am sure they would agree. Number 2, warrantless searches happen all the time, they are called consentual searches. How about number 4? No state of emergency may be called? I'm pretty sure this has been done plenty of times including Hurricane Katrina. George W Bush did poorly assist the citizens of Louisiana during the Katrina crisis. Obama beefed up FEMA funding to prevent this from happening again. Light the fires of conspiracy. Now every FEMA trailer is a prison by these fear based beliefs. There is a lack of everyday context built into the Oathkeeper's manifesto. The armed forces oath of enlistment does not separate defense of the constitution as being markedly separate than obeying the orders of the chain of command. It simply mentions both. The oathkeeper's oath does attempt to separate them, and the verbiage by which it is done is inferior to my short epistle.
•1. We will NOT obey any order to disarm the American people.
•2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people.
•3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.
•4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.
•5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
•6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
•7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
•8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control."
•9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.
•10. We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.
Look at number 1 in the list. It is clearly aimed at an envisioned mass stripping of weapons from the American populace. Now imagine it in the context of taking a weapon away from a dangerous criminal as police do routinely. Are they now wrong? The context of the Oathkeeper's agenda is an end of rules American plight by which we disintegrate into near anarchy, and I am sure they would agree. Number 2, warrantless searches happen all the time, they are called consentual searches. How about number 4? No state of emergency may be called? I'm pretty sure this has been done plenty of times including Hurricane Katrina. George W Bush did poorly assist the citizens of Louisiana during the Katrina crisis. Obama beefed up FEMA funding to prevent this from happening again. Light the fires of conspiracy. Now every FEMA trailer is a prison by these fear based beliefs. There is a lack of everyday context built into the Oathkeeper's manifesto. The armed forces oath of enlistment does not separate defense of the constitution as being markedly separate than obeying the orders of the chain of command. It simply mentions both. The oathkeeper's oath does attempt to separate them, and the verbiage by which it is done is inferior to my short epistle.
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Cpl Mark McMiller
I'm not a member, but I don't think they are paranoid at all. We all watched the tragedies at Ruby Ridge and Waco when federal law enforcement and our military threw the Constitution out the window. Likewise, we watched law enforcement and our military unlawfully confiscate weapons from citizens trying to defend themselves during Hurricane Katrina. Those and other events like them are what led to the creation of the oath keepers. I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting to uphold our Constitutional rights.
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I'd venture to say The Oathkeepers is a bit more beneficial & prevalent towards retired & or non active duty service members.
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Nah... Nutshell
5 Surprising Things I Learned Infiltrating An Armed Militia
The Oath Keepers' core membership is largely comprised of active duty and retired police officers, firefighters, and military. I went undercover in this group, and this is what I learned.
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As I said in this post (link below) I feel the Oath Keepers are giving themselves a bad wrap. Some of their actions have resulted in the negative views towards the organization and while I think they have some good intentions, their execution is off target sometimes.
"'Oath Keepers' armed with military weapons take to streets of Ferguson" | RallyPoint
From: MetroFour civilians carrying military-style rifles and sidearms patrolled a riot-torn street in Ferguson, Missouri, early Tuesday, saying they were there to protect a media organization but drawing swift criticism from police and protesters alike.The appearance of the four men, all white, quickly drew stares in the mostly black neighborhood, which exploded into violence again on Sunday night as protesters marked the police killing of an...
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I do not physically know any Oath Keepers but I do know of many of them through Social Media. According to what they say they stand for the only difference between them and myself is that I have not officially joined their organization.
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