Posted on Sep 21, 2015
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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LTC Henry Barber
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The Marine Corps Commandants normally don't hold back on their thoughts. Say your piece, salute and drive on.
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GySgt Ray Wyatt
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A WM is a Marine, just like her Brothers. If a WM wants to take up the challenge, let her. She like all Marines will need to prove her strength and drive to move up or move out. Semper Fi.
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GySgt Ray Wyatt
GySgt Ray Wyatt
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The data says a WM is not a Marine? That's what I am saying, at that point it becomes the burden of the "Individual Marine" to prove they can or can't do the job. An intelligent person can make any data prove their point...
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GySgt Ray Wyatt
GySgt Ray Wyatt
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I did not read or follow the study. My point was this. Let everyone test their abilities and either make it or move on to be a success in another MOS. Everyone should be allowed to test, start at the same point and graded equally to find out who has the abilities to succeed at the assigned task. There is no discredit in attempting something only to discover it's not obtainable. It's called building character.
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Cpl Clinton Britt
Cpl Clinton Britt
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I have seen some WM'S that are tougher than some Males. The thing is that we as Males would have to forget the fact that she is a female. We do protect our own but what of she gets caught? What then? One company wreaking havoc till she gets back. She is a Sister after all
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Quick synopsis of results: women have higher injury rates, less capability in terms of muscular strength, and their teams were outperformed by male counterparts. Effective combat units yield less casualties, which means that opening up these combat roles open our Marines up to injury or death. This issue must be approached from the perspective of combat effectiveness. Putting women in units were they are in incidental combat roles is one thing, but putting them in the position to close with and destroy the enemy is another. As a culture, we put men and women in different sports teams, so why we try to incorporate them into the same unit for the purpose of frontline warfare, where life and death are on the line, is beyond me.
Females have lower bone density (which is why they don't go to winter OCS and have higher stress fracture rates), their bodies' natural chemical balance doesn't allow them to maintain muscle mass as long as men (resulting in atrophy), and their VO2 Max is lower than men.
Study after study has showed that this is not a good idea. If it doesn't make us stronger and help us win wars, then SWAN and all these other activist groups need to sit down, shut up, and focus on what's really important (hint: it isn't promotion opportunities, it's fighting and killing the enemy).
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If he feels it's what is best, I wish him the best but doubt this will go very far other than causing more arguments on the subject.
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