Posted on Jan 14, 2015
On the spot corrections in public; when is it appropriate?
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This weekend me and my GF decided to get out and go to the movies not near any military base once so ever (maybe a Reserve or NG training facility could be near by). So I'm glancing around notice a uniform on a young lady and her hair down with a PT cap on inside of the mall. I didn't loose my mind at first because it could be anyone just wearing the uniform these days. As I get closer to her I notice she has on SPC rank. I told my GF that I have to say something to her and of course she didn't understand. When I approached the SPC and her civilian male acquaintance, I asked her was she in the Army and she quickly replied "yes". So I asked her did she know she was in complete violation of Army Regs she says "yes". The female rolled her eyes at me and I could tell she was going to have
a attitude with me so I quickly removed myself from the situation. So at what point do we as leaders make a on the spot correction in public or remove ourselves from the situation? I felt at the time as a NCO I should have done more to make her fix herself, but on the other hand I didn't want to make a scene at the mall and in public. SPC Ware I definitely will remember you forever.
a attitude with me so I quickly removed myself from the situation. So at what point do we as leaders make a on the spot correction in public or remove ourselves from the situation? I felt at the time as a NCO I should have done more to make her fix herself, but on the other hand I didn't want to make a scene at the mall and in public. SPC Ware I definitely will remember you forever.
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sometimes the way you approach todays Soldiers can have a confrontation specially if you a are in the Civilian sector because they fill Untouchable, the best way would be, is to say good day SPC JANE DOE you have your hair undone you need to fix it thanks...... by that time you would have see her name tape, and is She come with Attitude make your Mission as an NCO go to the Post locator or your S-1 and start your research, believe me you will find her,....then.. talk to Her 1SG with counseling form on hand and RECOMMEND a Article 15 to show her how far the NCO Corp can go!...... you can also find out if THE NCO Corp in that Company is weak!! then you slam dunk them with your CSM and here as well jejejeje good luck Troop!!
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I'm in the guard and glad I don't live near any military installations. I probably would've said something to her on her side, but rolling the eyes and I would've lost it. Some of these people today who join don't get it. I like how you handled it though, with dignity and professionalism and you didn't lose your cool.
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It's just a lack of respect for the craft and the uniform, IMHO. When I was active, I always wore my uniform correctly and proudly. I displayed respect to my peers and leaders appropriately at all times because I believed in what I was there for, not because it was required. It bothers me to see this kind of disrespect in the ranks. I question why she is even in to begin with. She obviously has little to no self respect much less for anything remotely important. Yes it's just a uniform...but it is also a symbol of the service, the history of the the branch, reflects all that is what we all stand together and fight for everyday. So yes it's important to do it properly and not just because someone ordered you to, because you truly believe it means more.
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You were absolutely right to correct her. I would have gone a bit further when she got an attitude and asked her which unit she was with, and then would have informed someone in her unit about her improper wear of the uniform and disrespect when confronted.
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As leaders we have to do the hard things daily and any more the young troops think on occasion that the rules and regs only count for others and on post. But the truth is those of us who are true service members know you do the right thing even when no one is there to notice. We have to use tact but the correction should be made to maintain the proper military image/ bearing and regulations. We are part of a professional organization that many have paid the ultimate price to preserve and our young service members needs to hold that close and do the right thing. It's difficult at times to make the on the spot correction but necessary. Hooaah
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If you're not going to be professional at least look it!!! that UNIFORM is to be worn with pride at all times! I respect it like I respect our flag because it stands for something don't let soldiers who know better sully it!
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If you get an attitude, take a picture with your phone and send it to the post Command Sergeant's Major and let the chain of command take care of it.
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I would have pulled her to the side after she said yes. Let myself be known as an NCO. Properly fix yourself and show respect to this uniform.
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As a former SPC I would have jumped down her throat politely at first till she got the attitude then taken her to the side and smoked hertill all the wallsin the mall were sweating.
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I have been out of the service for many a year now but I do know that uniform regulations are set in stone. Had it been me, I would have identified myself, asked her to move away from people and informed her of the violation. If the attitude came, I would have recorded it and taken the pic you did. Then I would have returned to the nearest post and visited the MP's. At the very least they could ensure proper attire and uniform regulations are stressed at daily formations of companies, etc.
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