Posted on Jul 26, 2021
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This has been a topic a few of my coworkers and I have had, regarding COVID and the inevitable mandate for the vaccine within our ranks. While I understand the likelihood of the vaccine being mandatory currently, as an emergency approval, is unlikely... eventually that will not be the case and it will be mandated. What type of separation do you think those resisting will receive?
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LTC Eugene Chu
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Discharge may vary depending on individual service record. Here is a June 2021 Military Times article on what happened decades ago when some troops refused the anthrax vaccine.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2021/06/17/troops-who-refused-anthrax-vaccine-paid-a-high-price/
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SSgt Thonas Daly
SSgt Thonas Daly
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Service members separated from the military for refusing the COVID-19 vaccine receive a general discharge under honorable conditions WHICH MEANS they NOT eligible for GI Bill EDUCATION benefits.
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Maj Robert Larkowski
Maj Robert Larkowski
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SFC Robert Falco - Yeah things can be a bit confusing but this is an evolving situation where the info you get is not exact but this is the best science has to offer right now.
P.S. The vaccine and wearing masks works,
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MSgt Mike (Lobo VNV Original) Morrow
MSgt Mike (Lobo VNV Original) Morrow
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Maj Robert Larkowski - Sorry Maj., the "vaccine" is not a cure, it is a preventative that moderates the COVID symptoms.
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Maj Robert Larkowski
Maj Robert Larkowski
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MSgt Mike (Lobo VNV Original) Morrow -
Maybe so but it is working to keep people alive like other vaccines that preceded it,
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SFC Intelligence Analyst
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There will be exemptions like with everything. Let's be realistic. But if there's no legitimate reason, then they'll not be deployable. If you're not deployable, what is it 12 months, you get separated.

What's the separation code for people who don't meet standards? Probably that.
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SSG Gary R Peek
SSG Gary R Peek
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I know AR 635-200 covers all the codes but if memory serves me well isn’t it a separation for convenience of the Government?

Something along that line, I’d have to look it up.
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Hard to be realistic with a stale potato leading our country who is more interested in passing a “vaccine” that is questionable for the sake of an agenda instead of the interest of the people.
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SSgt Thonas Daly
SSgt Thonas Daly
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Service members separated from the military for refusing the COVID-19 vaccine receive a general discharge under honorable conditions WHICH MEANS they NOT eligible for GI Bill EDUCATION benefits.
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SFC Intelligence Analyst
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SSgt Thonas Daly - Pretty sure I mentioned months ago when the Marines kicked out a Marine who refused to follow the mask mandate and gave her general under honorable. But I haven't seen for sure what people have been getting lately.

This is the most recent I found:

"On Thursday, the Marine Corps said it has discharged 103 Marines so far for refusing the vaccine, and the Army said it has reprimanded more than 2,700 soldiers and will begin discharge proceedings in January. The Air Force said earlier this week that 27 airmen had been discharged for refusing the vaccine order. The Navy laid out its new discipline procedure this week and has already fired one sailor from his command job for refusing to be tested while he pursues an exemption."

"While each service has developed its own process, all are following existing rules for when a service member disobeys a lawful order. Getting thrown out of the military for refusing a vaccine has been done very rarely. But service members are routinely discharged for disobeying orders — often getting an honorable discharge or general discharge with honorable conditions."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-military-troops-discharged/
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PO2 Harold Ashton
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Texas hospital chief: We're fighting two wars — One against Covid, the other against stupidity

Dr. Joseph Varon, the Chief of Critical Care at United Memorial Medical Center, describes what it is like on the front lines of the fourth wave of the Coronavirus pandemic. Texas and Florida combined account for more than one-third of new hospitalizations nationwide.

https://www.msnbc.com/craig-melvin/watch/texas-hospital-chief-we-re-fighting-two-wars-one-against-covid-the-other-against-stupidity [login to see] 52?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR1UnsKL9noRMzgCT20UuxcP_K7rN0TpTWGCis78nT3m5rdJuSUZPXLALY4
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Maj Gail Lofdahl
Maj Gail Lofdahl
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“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”--Isaac Asimov
My sister-in-law is a doctor at a noted medical center. She and 98% of the doctors there are vaccinated for COVID-19. (The small unvaccinated percentage can't receive the vaccine for one reason or another.) Unless you believe all doctors have a "death wish," why would most of them self-vaccinate if it were harmful? Don't be stupid--get vaccinated.
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MAJ Engineer Plans Officer
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The experimental SARS-CoV-2 shots (vaccines) do not prevent the spread of the disease, and do not protect people from it. This is evident from studies in multiple countries, not anti-intellectualism. If the medical community was actually making decisions based on the data, they would stop the mandatory shots. Unfortunately, getting the COVID shots is now just a symbol of loyalty to leftist political indoctrination.
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MSgt Mike (Lobo VNV Original) Morrow
MSgt Mike (Lobo VNV Original) Morrow
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MAJ (Join to see) - You right in that the COVID shots "do not prevent the spread of the disease, and do not protect people from it" but, they do mitigate the symptoms and more than likely will keep you out of the hospital and off a respirator.
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The shots do not stop infections from any of the mutations of SARS-CoV-2. That is why they didn't reduce hospitalizations during the Delta variant surge. Also, the Omicron mutation is too mild to have severe adverse symptoms, so there is no reason to get the shots for it or any subsequent mutation. Furthermore, There is now evidence that the shots will have long term adverse effects due to them compromising the natural immune system.
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