Posted on Dec 4, 2014
Outrageous True Military Stories. Which is your favorite?
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Sometimes true stories that inspire movies are better than the fiction.
Which Service has the best outrageous (true) hero stories? Back it up with a credible link or citation.
Approximately 80 officers and 200 enlisted men from the Marine Corps served in the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) during World War II. In that group was one of the most decorated Marines in World War II and the most decorated member of the OSS, Col. Pierre “Peter” Julien Ortiz, U.S. Marine Corps Reserve, whose military career actually began in the French Foreign Legion.
http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/the-incredible-saga-of-col-peter-j-ortiz/
Which Service has the best outrageous (true) hero stories? Back it up with a credible link or citation.
Approximately 80 officers and 200 enlisted men from the Marine Corps served in the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) during World War II. In that group was one of the most decorated Marines in World War II and the most decorated member of the OSS, Col. Pierre “Peter” Julien Ortiz, U.S. Marine Corps Reserve, whose military career actually began in the French Foreign Legion.
http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/the-incredible-saga-of-col-peter-j-ortiz/
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Capt Richard I P., here's my outrageous true military story, which is my favorite because I actually got to meet the man!
In late 1944 and early 1945, COL Aaron Bank, U.S. Army (of OSS/Jedburgh Team fame and Father of Special Forces), led "Operation Iron Cross," which evolved into a plan to capture or kill Adolf Hitler. The OSS actively recruited German POWs who were opposed to Hitler to form a special forces unit, outfitted with SS uniforms and highly trained in "raid and snatch" techniques. This unit was trained as parachute infantry and was intended for insertion into the expected "Alpine Redoubt" on the Austrian/German border, where senior Nazi officials were planning to make their last stand against the advancing Allied armies. Hitler was expected to flee from Berlin and retire to the Alpine Redoubt before the Soviets could enter the capital city, so General William Joseph Donovan, head of the OSS, issued this order: "Tell Bank to get Hitler."
"Iron Cross" was canceled almost on the eve of execution because intelligence showed that Hitler had remained in Berlin. (This info is extracted from a Wikipedia article.)
In June, 1993, the Special Forces Association held their annual convention in Nashville, TN. COL Bank was there as a special guest and also to promote his new book, "Knight's Cross", which was a novel he co-wrote that utilized Operation Iron Cross as the basis of the story . He was 90 years old at the time. I was fortunate enough to meet COL Bank and still have an inscribed copy of his book!
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In late 1944 and early 1945, COL Aaron Bank, U.S. Army (of OSS/Jedburgh Team fame and Father of Special Forces), led "Operation Iron Cross," which evolved into a plan to capture or kill Adolf Hitler. The OSS actively recruited German POWs who were opposed to Hitler to form a special forces unit, outfitted with SS uniforms and highly trained in "raid and snatch" techniques. This unit was trained as parachute infantry and was intended for insertion into the expected "Alpine Redoubt" on the Austrian/German border, where senior Nazi officials were planning to make their last stand against the advancing Allied armies. Hitler was expected to flee from Berlin and retire to the Alpine Redoubt before the Soviets could enter the capital city, so General William Joseph Donovan, head of the OSS, issued this order: "Tell Bank to get Hitler."
"Iron Cross" was canceled almost on the eve of execution because intelligence showed that Hitler had remained in Berlin. (This info is extracted from a Wikipedia article.)
In June, 1993, the Special Forces Association held their annual convention in Nashville, TN. COL Bank was there as a special guest and also to promote his new book, "Knight's Cross", which was a novel he co-wrote that utilized Operation Iron Cross as the basis of the story . He was 90 years old at the time. I was fortunate enough to meet COL Bank and still have an inscribed copy of his book!
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Capt Richard I P.
LTC Stephen C. Sir,
1. The story you told is awesome. Mine (of Col Ortiz was a Jedburgh Team member as well.
2. The fact that you got a signed copy of the book and shook the man's hand is fantastic!
So that's one for Marine Corps and one for Army.
1. The story you told is awesome. Mine (of Col Ortiz was a Jedburgh Team member as well.
2. The fact that you got a signed copy of the book and shook the man's hand is fantastic!
So that's one for Marine Corps and one for Army.
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That is awesome LTC Stephen C.! Good thread Capt Richard I P.. It's funny you brought this up. I watched Inglorious Bastards just last weekend. I had heard it was inspired by a true story. I may have to find that book!
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In the weeks after D-Day, American forces were fighting in the French port city of Cherbourg. LCDR Quentin Walsh, USCGR, led a 53 man assault team which battled the German garrison in house to house fighting taking 400 prisoners from the city's naval arsenal.
Then despite being badly outnumbered, Walsh made his way to FT Du Homet where he told the German commander that he was there on behalf of the Allies to accept the honorable surrender of German troops since further fighting was pointless. The German commander believing that he was surrounded and in imminent danger of being overrun surrendered 350 more troops and released more than 50 Allied paratroopers who had been captured during D-Day.
In total, Walsh's force of 53 captured more than 700 Germans, liberated more than 50 Americans, and reduced the city's inner arsenal.
For his efforts, Walsh was awarded the Navy Cross.
Then despite being badly outnumbered, Walsh made his way to FT Du Homet where he told the German commander that he was there on behalf of the Allies to accept the honorable surrender of German troops since further fighting was pointless. The German commander believing that he was surrounded and in imminent danger of being overrun surrendered 350 more troops and released more than 50 Allied paratroopers who had been captured during D-Day.
In total, Walsh's force of 53 captured more than 700 Germans, liberated more than 50 Americans, and reduced the city's inner arsenal.
For his efforts, Walsh was awarded the Navy Cross.
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SSG Tim Everett
CMC Robert Young thank you for the story -- the thing that stood out to me the most was "USCGR"... US Coast Guard Reserve? They pulled this off?!
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CMC Robert Young
SSG Everett, they did indeed. He was apparently a Coast Guard Academy grad who transferred to the reserve after his initial tour, but was later pressed into duty as an intelligence officer when the war broke out.
I had not heard this story until required to do some research as part of a career development project. I read everything I could find on it after stumbling across some of the documents from the USCG Historian's Office. It is one the most compelling tales I've ever heard. For reasons that escape me, it is an often overlooked piece of our service's history.
I had not heard this story until required to do some research as part of a career development project. I read everything I could find on it after stumbling across some of the documents from the USCG Historian's Office. It is one the most compelling tales I've ever heard. For reasons that escape me, it is an often overlooked piece of our service's history.
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PO2 Jonathan Scharff
The Coast Guard...quietly saving lives since 1790! Semper Paratus CMC Robert Young, Semper Paratus!
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I just read Col Ortiz's story. That was surreal. A true boyhood adventurer...that never really stopped. Its amazing, some might say he was in the right place at the right time. ..his story is unrepeatable.
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Capt Richard I P.
SSG(P) (Join to see) Kind of sounds that way doesn't it? Reminded me of Inglorious Basterds in the audacity and behind enemy lines aspect.
As to the out of time: his actions at the time were classified given his working with the OSS, I have no doubt that there are similar people getting their starts in the military then moving to the hazy world of Private Military Corporations doing outrageous things today. We may hear of them in 25-50 years.
As to the out of time: his actions at the time were classified given his working with the OSS, I have no doubt that there are similar people getting their starts in the military then moving to the hazy world of Private Military Corporations doing outrageous things today. We may hear of them in 25-50 years.
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Not really a story about an individual, but a unit. The Texas Army National Guard 36th Infantry Division was the first American unit to step onto mainland Europe during WW II as a part of Operation Avalanche.
http://www.texasmilitaryforcesmuseum.org/36division/archives/salerno/salerno.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN7qIy84gR4
http://www.texasmilitaryforcesmuseum.org/36division/archives/salerno/salerno.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN7qIy84gR4
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Capt Richard I P.
I don't know if it's my favorite, but I love watching Pentagon Wars, is about the development of the Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle
I don't know if it's my favorite, but I love watching Pentagon Wars, is about the development of the Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle
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I couldn't remember the facts so I had to go find the book and copy the description from Amazon but these guys were pretty bad ass. When they were picked up in the morning there were only a handful that could get in the bird and they had something like 8 total rounds left amongst them. It is believed that they faced a VC Regiment. And if you are interested in the entire story the book is Hill 488.
On June 13, 1966, men of the 1st Recon Battalion, 1st Marine Division were stationed on Hill 488. Before the week was over, they would fight the battle that would make them the most highly decorated small unit in the entire history of the U.S. military, winning a Congressional Medal of Honor, four Navy Crosses, thirteen Silver Stars, and eighteen Purple Hearts -- some of them posthumously.
During the early evening of June 15, a battalion of hardened North Vietnamese regulars and Viet Cong -- outnumbering the Americans 25-to-1 -- threw everything they had at the sixteen Marines and two Navy corpsmen for the rest of that terror-filled night. Every man who held the hill was either killed or wounded defending the ground with unbelievable courage and unflagging determination -- even as reinforcements were on the way.
On June 13, 1966, men of the 1st Recon Battalion, 1st Marine Division were stationed on Hill 488. Before the week was over, they would fight the battle that would make them the most highly decorated small unit in the entire history of the U.S. military, winning a Congressional Medal of Honor, four Navy Crosses, thirteen Silver Stars, and eighteen Purple Hearts -- some of them posthumously.
During the early evening of June 15, a battalion of hardened North Vietnamese regulars and Viet Cong -- outnumbering the Americans 25-to-1 -- threw everything they had at the sixteen Marines and two Navy corpsmen for the rest of that terror-filled night. Every man who held the hill was either killed or wounded defending the ground with unbelievable courage and unflagging determination -- even as reinforcements were on the way.
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I meant for this to be a poll, but forgot to make it one before I posted it (and apparently cant add one or delete this to make a new one) so make sure you announce the service at the beginning of your answer.
Also I am aware that the film Inglorious Basterds is not based on the exploits of Col. Pierre “Peter” Julien Ortiz, but I thought people would be more drawn in by reference to it than to 13 Rue Madeline (1947) starring James Cagney, or Operation Secret (1952) starring Cornel Wilde.
Also I am aware that the film Inglorious Basterds is not based on the exploits of Col. Pierre “Peter” Julien Ortiz, but I thought people would be more drawn in by reference to it than to 13 Rue Madeline (1947) starring James Cagney, or Operation Secret (1952) starring Cornel Wilde.
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A toss up between Band of Brothers and We Were Soldiers. Read the books as well...
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Dan Daly's whole career. The guy was a real life superhero. No links, on my phone. Look him up though.
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The crazy British officer who carried a sword, bagpipe and long bow into battle. The last English soldier to kill with a long bow.
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