Posted on Jan 31, 2014
TSgt Scott Hurley
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Recently, I went to an AHL Hockey Game. In front of where I was seated along with my sisters and one of my sisters boyfriends. Four teens did not stand when that announcement was made to please stand for the Flag (Had a town Police Honor Guard posting the Colors) and the National Anthem. My sister who is in the Air Guard said something to them. And they did not budge. Others around us, were not to thrilled with them either. I for one am not to thrilled with this generation of kids, but not standing for the National Anthem or paying Respect to the flag of the United States is not right. I know that when the Canadian Anthem is played, we Americans will still respect their flag. The Same for all other countries and anthems.

What say all of you?
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SFC Jason Porter
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Mmmm interesting maybe they are not taught is the only thing I can think of. I think it is important to tell them. But remember we are service members they are civilians we where taught to respect the flag and our country and most of us did prior to joining.

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SFC I think that might be the case, but the blatant disrespect but not standing after they were told to and not doing so when they heard, "Now please stand for the playing of the National Anthem" is what bothers me. This is why my generation gets frowned upon so often. In all honesty they don't emphasize patriotism and rendering respect in school and I think it is an issue.
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1SG Johnny Carter
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I wi say this, as Soldiers, veterans, and caring civilians we always render respect when it comes to the National Anthem or other Nations anthem! It truly pisses me off when I see people not do the same when it comes to our National Anthem because like you all I have spilled blood, lost battles in combat for our Country and to not Show respect boils my blood to the point of tears. BUT a friends father was there with me a, Veteran from Vietnam said I was an idiot to let that bother me. He said as a person they have those rights we fight for a chose to do what they want and that if only 1% of our nation fights then expect one 1% to honor! Anything over that is a bonus. I was like damn good point. So yes we fight for those rights that people use for them so at the end of the day if they chose not to show respect that's on them and as long as we show ours our fallen will ALWAYS be represented! So don't lose sleep over it. And with these kids now a days, don't blame them it the way they were brought up, just set the example always!!!
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Maj Walter Kilar
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Sadly, we cannot blame some of these kids for how they were raised. Before I started homeschooling my kids, they had been in schools where they did not and could not recite the Pledge of Allegiance, because it might offend the undocumented immigrants in the class. At school events, there was no National Anthem, no invocation, no Pledge of Allegiance. Imagine what that does to a generation of kids.
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SPC Davie Harvey
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I was always taught to pay my respects to the Pledge of Allegiance, the flag, and our Country as a whole. I've also noticed from my personal experience (ROLL TIDE STADIUM) that when you render the proper respects... it becomes contagious. 
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1SG Steven Stankovich
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It really burns me up inside when people do not pay the proper respects to our flag, our National Anthem, or to our veterans and fallen service members.  I believe that you sister handled the situation very well.  The best thing to do, in my opinion, is an on the spot correction type of response with a little reason why this is important.  If that doesn't work, then it is better for you to carry on.  There is no need getting into a "pissing contest" with someone who does not understand the "bigger picture."  You cannot spoon feed patriotism or national pride.  Those things must be taught or they are learned through either personal or second hand experiences.
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I will ALWAYS pay respect to the flag, and ALL VETS, and their families, past, present, and future!
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I am always on my feet during the National Anthem, Reveille, Retreat, or the passing of the colors, as are my kids and wife (we’re both retirees). I also raise and lower the colors at my house everyday (0600 and 1800, respectively); I don’t just leave them hanging and forget they’re there. I have also shown up at strangers’ houses with a new, crisp flag when theirs is tattered, and ask if I can properly retire their flag for them.

I am a father and husband first, and a soldier second, now and always. I and mine will always render the proper courtesies.
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Technical Sergeant, I believe the children should have been addressed, of course at the correct moment. Their actions only show the lack of education and disrespect when it comes to the sacrifices that has been made for our country. You can only do so much to show them the correct ways, but instances like these only build my motivation to show the world what my brothers and sisters in arms had to do for our country and to express why freedom is so precious.
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I believe that the problem is we are no longer teaching our youth today that by paying respect to our Flag or by saying out loud the Pledge of Allegiance  we are simply paying respect to what they stand for and for what hundreds of thousands of Americans have fought and died to preserve.  The teenagers and young adults today look at their actions as a way of defiance against government and that comes from a lack of education on their part.  Next time you see young kids sitting through the American Anthem, as hard as it is to do, educate them.  Explain that we are celebrating the very rights that they are, without even knowing it, exercising.  Not standing, or just as bad, standing yet talking through the National Anthem is simply showing your ignorance as to what this great country is all about.  Yes I am damn proud to be an American.


I know this is going to sound cheesy as hell but let me quote a line from American President  

 "America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You gotta want it bad, 'cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours. You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country can't just be a flag; the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then, you can stand up and sing about the "land of the free"


The key sentence in the above quote is "celebrate that in your classrooms"...Government has taken it out of our classrooms - big government always creates more trouble.

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Sergeant Major, that is an AWESOME quote. Thank you.
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I don't understand why this is even a question.  If I'm at a sporting event, and they play the National Anthem or post the colors, I am on my feet, and I am saluting.  I don't care what others around me do, I'm going to be what right looks like.  Let them take an example from me.
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SPC Sara Harris
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Their parents don't so respect either and have never taught them right. Also this is America you don't have to. Myself as an American, an a Veteran find it down right outrageous. Some kids now a days aren't raised to respect anything not even themselves, how to you expect them to respect anything. Times are changing for the worse not the better.

 

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SSG William Patton
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I have seen all demographics fail to show respect to the flag and the anthem prior to a ball game.  I will not over generalize and say the current generation is worse than past generations, but they tend to be the ones singled out.  I nearly got in a fight before a LSU baseball game last spring because a guy my age would not remove his cap and show respect.  He made some comment that it did not deserve respect and when he spoke, his accent demonstrated he was not one of us, an American.  Regardless, he should have respected those of us who take this seriously.  I made that point with him and he wanted to escalate the encounter.  My son and a person with this guy separated us and then the Baton Rouge PD, who apparently had observed the encounter, removed him from the stadium.  I do not care who you are or where you are from, respect the flag and what it stands for.
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