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What is RP's thoughts on this?
Tradition
Honor Guard
Posted 11 y ago
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WOW, Just WOW! I grew up on military bases until I was 16, I loved the sound of Taps and Reveille, plus living at Ft. Hood, Listening to the range music at night was also great. Maybe why I went into Armor in the Army in the first place. This is totally dis-respectful to our present and past troops!
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SFC William Swartz Jr
I wholeheartedly agree, the residents of that particular base should be glad they were not members of the 11th ACR, we had almost all bugle calls played every day.
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LTC Scott O'Neil
Overseas (Italy and Korea) we ran PT down town and in housing areas and sang Jodie's loud and proud. This is part of living near and on a Military post. I attended the Oldest Private Military College in the United States (Norwich University) It is nestled in the mountains of Vermont and we played Taps, and Reveille, we fired cannons on Saturday during Football Games and we marched downtown on an occasion. The residence love the Cadets and the traditions of the school. Those who live near or around a military post have to love the military and their traditions.
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SFC William Swartz Jr Exactly, I recall it well with I was stationed in Fulda (1/11th) for 6 plus years. Here at Fort Stewart, the Senior Commander (2 Star) instituted the playing of every traditional bugle call over the installaton Giant Voice, beginning with Reville, Mess Call (breakfast, lunch, Supper) Work Call, Retreat, Taps, Chapel Call on Sundays...everyone of them. As it should be!
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SFC William Swartz Jr
1SG (Join to see) I remember the bugle calls at Ft. Stewart as well, along with "The Dog Face Soldier" sung every morning immediately following Reveille, as you said...As it should be!
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Well since most all military bases started out in deserted, or low population areas. Than the area was built up later. They knew what they were getting into, especially the playing of Reveille and Taps. So shut the hell up!
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The base commander should create a proactive PR campaign that explains the significance of these traditions. Have active duty/members visit schools and get on the agenda of the various town board meetings. They will get their 10 minutes to speak and explain the reasons. Then when the few crybabies complain the rest of their neighbors will tell them to sit down. I haven't been in uniform since the earlier 90's. If I lived near a base I would make my kids stop and turn toward the flag in our yard.
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PO3 Paul Anderson
What?! If I was base commander I would make it a point to be in that area everyday for Reveille and Taps standing proud in the middle of the street. I would also "invite " my staff and others to join me. Each evolution (Taps/Reveille) is maybe a minute if I remember correctly. If that was still too much for them I would give them a form to relinquish/move request ONbase housing. Tell them to have a nice day.
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PO3 Paul Anderson
Btw it was "never quiet " on a Navy ship but I got my sleep. I was a "shift worker". 6hrs on then 6 hours off. Anything personal like showering or eating was during the 6 off. Lol
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Today's military is filling up with some whiney bitches!! Glad I got out while there were still a few people with sense running things.
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Being in an MOS (military occupational specialty) that is only assigned to aviation brigades, I sympathize with the shift workers. I'm fortunate that I only work during the day when in garrison, but there are Soldiers in our flight companies who sleep/work at all hours of the day. They shouldn't have to move off-post in order to get a full 8 hours of sleep without hearing a cannon go off.
They're still playing the bugle calls in operational areas, so what difference does it make if they just turn off the speakers in the housing areas?
They're still playing the bugle calls in operational areas, so what difference does it make if they just turn off the speakers in the housing areas?
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SGT Marika Waiters
I have to laugh here...I was always taught to sleep when you can, and sleep through anything! I've learned to sleep through reveille, taps, helos right next to my balcony, jets, C-130s, an earthquake or 2, tread vehicles, NEOEX horns, hurricane sirens, car alarms, highways, and now the noisiest neighbors in America! One of the things that bind us together in the military and separates us from the herd of gen pop is our traditions, customs, and courtesies. These things help promote esprit de corps. Without them, we are no better than the civilian herd. If you wear the uniform, or you married the uniform, or are born to the uniform, learn to adjust. Period. If you don't want to honor these things, move out smartly and rejoin the herd. This crybaby sort of PC nonsense is what's eroding our military!
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TSgt Joshua Copeland, on some Army posts, a canon is fired before reville in the morning, and before Colors in the evening. That's what they're referring to.
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CPT (Join to see) - Sir, at some posts, the cannon goes off during both reveille and retreat, seven days per week.
It's funny how company commanders claim they want their Soldiers to have a higher quality of living, but when presented with a policy so simple as turning down the speakers at reveille and retreat ONLY in housing areas, they balk at the slightest change.
The Soldiers on duty at PT formations still salute the flag, so what difference does make if they practice frisbee while waiting for Battalion PT to assist your.
It's funny how company commanders claim they want their Soldiers to have a higher quality of living, but when presented with a policy so simple as turning down the speakers at reveille and retreat ONLY in housing areas, they balk at the slightest change.
The Soldiers on duty at PT formations still salute the flag, so what difference does make if they practice frisbee while waiting for Battalion PT to assist your.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
SGT (Join to see), that is not the case here. I am well aware of the Army's Cannon firing having lived next to Ft Dix for 8 years.
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Personally I do not see a problem with this. You have to draw a distinction between your life as a military member and your family life. Though there is nothing at all wrong or inappropriate with revelry and retreat, I don't think that family members, who are not oath-sworn members of the military to have to be disrupted by it every day. They didn't choose that, you did. You can't expect your family feel the same way as you. Personally I believe you should leave 'work at work' as much as possible, and when you are off-duty, focus on your family and their well-being. They are sacrificing enough already by having a military parent or spouse.
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