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I just got word last week that I was selected to attend OCS. I've been enlisted just over 3 years as a 13F. Earned my BS back in 2011...

I'm wondering there is anything I can do to prepare outside of the obvious? I will ensure I'm in great shape. I found a study guide online with various required knowledge (i.e. Alma Mater, 3 general orders, etc). What are the areas that cause the most issues? Is there anyway to get a head start on some of these things? Any tips or experiences are more than welcome. If you have knowledge to offer, please share it. Thank you.
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COL Charles Williams
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SWEEETTTTT!!!! Congratulations CPT(P) (Join to see) !!!!

1. Be in the best shape ever.

2. Study all the online stuff you can find for required knowledge, so you are ahead of the game.

3. I would also recommend you know Operations Orders (WARNOs, and FRAGOs too), and Troop Leading Procedures, etc.

4. Brush up, and practice, Land Navigation.

5. Be good team player. Lead when it is your time, and be a good follower when you are not in charge.

6. Don't live in the past (where you came from), rather use your experience to help you, your squad and your platoon. Keep you mouth shut.

7. Take one day at time.

8. Never quit.

9. Be a sponge; learn all you can.

10. Remember, many many others have done this before you, so you can too.

Congratulations again and good luck!!!

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SFC Donald Neal
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These pointers are good for many other schools too. Sometimes being a good leader is helping others become better leaders too. I've been of the firm opinion if you aren't helping the rest of your group graduate as first time Gos, then you might be there for the wrong reasons.
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Capt Richard I P.
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Also can't help with army specifics. From a Marine perspective you must refuse to quit. Refuse to listen to people implanting doubt. Be as in shape as you possibly can be. Set the example. Ductus Exemplo.
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First off, congratulations CPT(P) (Join to see)! I can't speak for the Army, but in terms of the AF, you hit all of the important bullets that you CAN prepare for. The rest is mental. Getting yourself in the game and knowing that unlike in basic, the point is NOT to hide and hope to go unnoticed. Know that you will have to tackle multiple taskings under stress while delegating others, praising and redirecting along the way.

Best of luck to you!
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Some of those skills I've used as an NCO. I know as a commissioned officer I will have to refine them and use them more often. I'm ready for that challenge. Thank you Capt (Join to see)
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You're welcome, CPT(P) (Join to see)! Our program was very fast paced. We were given minimal instructions and expected to figure things out and problem solve on our own, making executive decisions and arguing why they were the best option after the fact.
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All,

Was just accepted to OCS with a June 17 report Date. Have a few questions with regards to the packing list. I am currently an E5 and wondering if the whole packing list is needed to be purchased prior to arrival or are you alloted time to acquire items needed such as ascots and other required items which are not at Polk?
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CPT Earl George
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7 P's Get the stuff now. If you don't need it, you can throw it away, or whatever later. remember, if you don't have it, you can't S - - - it.
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You will likely get a day or two to sign out and grab some stuff. I would come with the majority of the list assembled though.
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Sgt, there are some very good books you can pick up I can't remember all of them off hand most say beginning officers or young officers guide they will give good information, I myself hope to ascend to the officer ranks in time. To be honest if your PT is good and you have basic knowledge you already have a leg up over the others pay attention focus on studies and have fun. It is not meant to be a crazy school like SFAS, however take charge it shouldn't be any harder than NCOA schools. Remember even though you are going on to become a officer never forget "I will exercise initiative by taking appropriate action in the absence of orders"
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Great insight. Thanks!
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Congratulations! I just recently graduated in March, and I was also prior service enlisted. I'm actually still at OCS acting as one of the training company's XO until IBOLC. For in-service candidates, it is a bit of a culture shock because some expect it to be a gentleman's course. It is not. Come ready to be treated like everyone else, with the first four weeks similar to basic training. OCS is mostly student led, so there is a student CO, 1SG, XO, etc. and you are expected to make decisions and lead. In service personnel are generally given the top leadership positions at the beginning to teach the college option candidates how the Army works in terms of chain of command, marching, customs and courtesies, etc. We currently have a class with no prior service and its a challenge to get them to leave basic training mode and think for themselves. You will be a valuable asset in this.
The course is not difficult for those with prior service. You will probably not learn a lot of new things since the course focusing on teaching leadership from the ground up. Do be in good physical condition but it won't make a difference for classing up unless you fail. Study the required knowledge but make sure it is up to date because it changes every six months. Make sure your packing list is straight, and pay attention to detail. The usual.
Branching is based on OML, with events like the APFT, two 3 mile runs, LRC, CWST, history test, and some others which determines your branching rank, thus effecting your pick of branch. Usually MI, IN, and AR go first so if you want those, aim high. EN, CM, QM go in the middle, and FA, Trans, go near the end.
If you have any more questions, feel free to send me a message.
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Awesome info sir. Thank you... As far as branching goes I am leaning toward EN. I love being a 13F and enjoy the fire support side of FA. I've heard that prior enlisted can submit a 4187 for the branch they have served in. Is that expired info?

Also, is the packing list from 2013 really the most recent one?

Last question... I cannot get a straight answer. Sewn on patches for ACU's. Go or no go? I have tops sewn on already. I'd like to just swap out ranks. The packing list is costing me quite a bit as it is.

Thank you again for your time. Very much appreciated, sir.
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They are definitely still doing that. They look at any related college courses, certifications, NCOESs, NCOERs, as well as letters of recommendation. The higher the rank of the recommender the better (officer helps the most). When you get here they will give you the format and time to put the packet together. I would start gathering recommendations now because you have little time once you start the course.
There is no requirement to sew on patches. However, you can definitely wear yours currently sewn, you will just have to have the subdued "OCS" rank swapped with your SGT. There are a few of us that did the same thing.
Lastly, the packing list on the website is outdated. They released a new one in the fall along with a new OCS SOP. When I get to work tomorrow I'll grab a copy of the new list, scan it, and send it to you. You can message me an email address if you like and I can send it to you that way.
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SGT Michael Everett, congratulations.
Having gone a couple of years ago, I will tell you what made a difference to me.
All of these proved to be important, only you can assign subjective values when you attend the school. Most of all, be ready to compete from day one:

1- Attention to details, and it starts with the specific packing list required. The website has the current approved packing list. Start on it early.
2- You really need to be in shape in order to class-up (making the cut for the next class), because only the top APFT performers leave HHD in the first two tries. If I remember correctly, our class cut-off score was 287; meaning only those scoring and above were in (they still used the extended scale then).
3- Don't shy away from volunteering for leadership assignments. You'll come off ahead if you do. You need 51% of your leadership look to pass the course. Think of having occupied 1SG+Commander and Platoon SGT, if you fail Commander but passed the other two you're at 66% of your leadership look.
4- History and Calling For Fires were killers exams for my class. so,pay close attention to these classes.
These are what came to mind. Wish you luck at OCS!
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Great info sir thanks. I have started t review the required knowledge SOP packet and I'm going to start on the packing list as soon as I get a class date. As far as CFF I'm a forward observer so that's the very basics in my current mos. I have been looking into so reading material on US history.
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Congrats! I can't speak for OCS, but be prepared for the change from NCO to Officer. The roles are different.

When I made the transition, I found an NCO that trusted and asked him privately to let me know if I started crossing back into NCO business.

Again, congrats!
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Thank you, sir
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Congrats future sir!!!
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Thank you!!
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Kma west point. Best officers are former enlisted
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CW4 Craig Urban
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Give me a down vote west point cadet. My friend Pete Dawkins may have a talk with you
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CW4 Craig Urban
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Never mess with a warrant.
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CPT Earl George
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yes sir,no sir, no excuse sir. Don't let them get into your head.
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LTC Mo Vanderslice
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Michael, if you've been through the NCO academy then you already know most of what you need to know for OCS. What is different will be how to stomach taking a load of crap every day for three months until you graduate. Your company-level TAC officers are there to trip you up emotionally. As long as you can take their crap without laughing in their faces or punching them then you'll be fine. A last point is to get with your CSM or 1SG for PT - have them make sure that your push ups are perfect and that you can flat-out run for two miles, three miles would be better. The better you are at PT the less hassles the TAC Officers will give you as they zero-in on the weak and slow.
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CPT Earl George
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when in a leadership position, keep your people informed.
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