Posted on Dec 8, 2015
President Obama: Feckless Wimp or Authoritarian Despot?
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This is about the traitor/Fox News Consultant (same thing) that called POTUS a pussy.
"The metrics for determining pussyship are fluid and uncertain. We can assume that Peters’ usage of the word was obviously meant to convey that he considers Obama to be a coward and/or a weakling. This supposition is supported by some of Peters’ previous commentaries on the president, in which he has called Barack Obama “just not manly,” and a “bitchy high-school girl.” We can also glean from Peters’ commentary that he has an affinity for authority figures who exhibit stereotypically masculine behaviors, like Vladimir Putin, whom Peters has praised as a leader. However, Peters seems to exhibit some confusion on this point, as he’s referred to the Obama administration as “Stalinist,” which in practice was a very un-pussylike ideology. Peters has also accused Obama himself of associating with “tough Chicago guys” and having “a massive Third World chip on his shoulder,” which would suggest a certain degree of pugnaciousness. This contradiction afflicts a great many conservatives, who see in Obama simultaneously both a feckless wimp and an authoritarian despot.
So already we’re muddled on the question of whether Peters actually believes Obama merits being insulted in this way. Perhaps a better approach is to examine the case laid out by Peters as he was referring to Obama as a “pussy.” Here’s what he said on Fox News:
PETERS: And, you know, we want – we the people, the American people, whom he does not know in any intimate sort of manner, we want action. We want action against Islamic State and then – then, when the president is telling us he is going to destroy ISIS. This is a president who has done more harm to American police departments than he has done to Islamic State. This is a president who restrains our military. He uses it not to defeat ISIS, but for political purposes for political cover. This is a president who doesn’t want to hurt our enemies. This is a president who cares more about thugs in Guantanamo, or thugs in Ferguson, Missouri, than he does about law-abiding American citizens and their right to live in safety and peace.
I could break this all down piece by piece, but really there’s no need. Saying that the American people “want action against the Islamic State” implies that Obama has not been acting against the terrorist group, which is false. Per the Defense Department, the U.S. has conducted nearly 6,700 airstrikes in Iraq and Syria against ISIS. It’s true that airstrikes alone are not enough to “destroy” the Islamic State, but they’ve certainly helped to degrade it. That one fact alone pretty well dismantles every other argument he mustered when making the case for the “pussy” designation, unless the Defense Department has somehow covertly been bombing police stations all this time.
And it’s not entirely clear what Peters would consider a “manly” use of military resources. I would imagine that he, like a great many conservatives, sees the commitment of ground forces and a long, protracted, bloody occupation as the “manly” path forward, even if it is a proven recipe for disaster. But the man whose leadership qualities and vision he admires, Vladimir Putin, is similarly limiting his engagement with the terrorist group to airstrikes (when he’s not bombing anti-Assad rebels and Turkish aid convoys, of course).
So the case for calling Obama a “pussy” is weak and wracked with internal contradiction. And since Peters’ critique embodies so much of the conservative conventional wisdom about ISIS and the president, it seems only fair to turn the question around and ask: What do we call Ralph Peters?
“Sociopath” strikes the right note but feels a little too DSM-IV for my taste, a bit too clinical. “Bloodthirsty degenerate” is also in the correct area of the ballpark, but it’s a little rough and lacks joy. “Impotent crank who finds solace from the crushing frustrations of his wasted existence by going on cable news and boasting that his penis is bigger than the president’s” is a little too on-the-nose. As in the fight with ISIS, there is no perfect answer here, but I think “lunatic assclown” captures his essence well while also imbuing a pleasingly whimsical flair to the proceedings."
http://www.salon.com/2015/12/08/is_obama_a_pssy_a_very_important_fact_check_of_a_thing_that_was_said_on_cable_news/
"The metrics for determining pussyship are fluid and uncertain. We can assume that Peters’ usage of the word was obviously meant to convey that he considers Obama to be a coward and/or a weakling. This supposition is supported by some of Peters’ previous commentaries on the president, in which he has called Barack Obama “just not manly,” and a “bitchy high-school girl.” We can also glean from Peters’ commentary that he has an affinity for authority figures who exhibit stereotypically masculine behaviors, like Vladimir Putin, whom Peters has praised as a leader. However, Peters seems to exhibit some confusion on this point, as he’s referred to the Obama administration as “Stalinist,” which in practice was a very un-pussylike ideology. Peters has also accused Obama himself of associating with “tough Chicago guys” and having “a massive Third World chip on his shoulder,” which would suggest a certain degree of pugnaciousness. This contradiction afflicts a great many conservatives, who see in Obama simultaneously both a feckless wimp and an authoritarian despot.
So already we’re muddled on the question of whether Peters actually believes Obama merits being insulted in this way. Perhaps a better approach is to examine the case laid out by Peters as he was referring to Obama as a “pussy.” Here’s what he said on Fox News:
PETERS: And, you know, we want – we the people, the American people, whom he does not know in any intimate sort of manner, we want action. We want action against Islamic State and then – then, when the president is telling us he is going to destroy ISIS. This is a president who has done more harm to American police departments than he has done to Islamic State. This is a president who restrains our military. He uses it not to defeat ISIS, but for political purposes for political cover. This is a president who doesn’t want to hurt our enemies. This is a president who cares more about thugs in Guantanamo, or thugs in Ferguson, Missouri, than he does about law-abiding American citizens and their right to live in safety and peace.
I could break this all down piece by piece, but really there’s no need. Saying that the American people “want action against the Islamic State” implies that Obama has not been acting against the terrorist group, which is false. Per the Defense Department, the U.S. has conducted nearly 6,700 airstrikes in Iraq and Syria against ISIS. It’s true that airstrikes alone are not enough to “destroy” the Islamic State, but they’ve certainly helped to degrade it. That one fact alone pretty well dismantles every other argument he mustered when making the case for the “pussy” designation, unless the Defense Department has somehow covertly been bombing police stations all this time.
And it’s not entirely clear what Peters would consider a “manly” use of military resources. I would imagine that he, like a great many conservatives, sees the commitment of ground forces and a long, protracted, bloody occupation as the “manly” path forward, even if it is a proven recipe for disaster. But the man whose leadership qualities and vision he admires, Vladimir Putin, is similarly limiting his engagement with the terrorist group to airstrikes (when he’s not bombing anti-Assad rebels and Turkish aid convoys, of course).
So the case for calling Obama a “pussy” is weak and wracked with internal contradiction. And since Peters’ critique embodies so much of the conservative conventional wisdom about ISIS and the president, it seems only fair to turn the question around and ask: What do we call Ralph Peters?
“Sociopath” strikes the right note but feels a little too DSM-IV for my taste, a bit too clinical. “Bloodthirsty degenerate” is also in the correct area of the ballpark, but it’s a little rough and lacks joy. “Impotent crank who finds solace from the crushing frustrations of his wasted existence by going on cable news and boasting that his penis is bigger than the president’s” is a little too on-the-nose. As in the fight with ISIS, there is no perfect answer here, but I think “lunatic assclown” captures his essence well while also imbuing a pleasingly whimsical flair to the proceedings."
http://www.salon.com/2015/12/08/is_obama_a_pssy_a_very_important_fact_check_of_a_thing_that_was_said_on_cable_news/
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Many times, people miss the opportunity to be persuasive about a topic because they are so emotional about the issue that they lose their audience. Although I would allow that the audience in this instance almost certainly had their mind made up on President Obama's policies.
Similar instances of vitriol was a daily occurance when George W Bush was President.
Translation: LTC(R) Peters is not trying to actually convince anybody. He is offering up red meat to people who already have their mind made up.
As an aside, I think it is eminently possible to be feckless or weak in respect to one policy, and overreaching and dictatorial on other issues. As a currently serving Soldier, that is as far as I can go.
Similar instances of vitriol was a daily occurance when George W Bush was President.
Translation: LTC(R) Peters is not trying to actually convince anybody. He is offering up red meat to people who already have their mind made up.
As an aside, I think it is eminently possible to be feckless or weak in respect to one policy, and overreaching and dictatorial on other issues. As a currently serving Soldier, that is as far as I can go.
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Capt Seid Waddell
1SG (Join to see), "I think it is eminently possible to be feckless or weak in respect to one policy, and overreaching and dictatorial on other issues."
I think that the POTUS has mastered both - even on the same subject at times (for instance the Iran deal).
I think that the POTUS has mastered both - even on the same subject at times (for instance the Iran deal).
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LTC Peters is a retired Intel officer and the author of several books about military history. I suggest that you do a little research before you call him names. The current situation in the Middle East was predicted to be the inevitable result if Obama followed his ill-conceived plans to pull out of Iraq precipitously without regard for the consequences. And against the recommendations of senior military advisors. I suggest that you acquire a bit more knowledge of military history and the history of the Middle East before you reveal any more ignorance. You owe it to your troops. Obama was willing to give up that which was earned by the blood of your Marines and my soldiers. Obama drew a red line and didn't have the balls to do anything when that line was crossed. It may be crude and ungentlemanly but a man who makes such a challenge and then doesn't back it up was called a "Pussy" in my day! Peters doesn't admire Putin for the way he treats people but that when Putin says that he is going to do something, he does it!
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Capt Walter Miller
Fox suspends 2 analysts for language against Obama
NEW YORK — Two Fox News contributors were suspended Monday for using inappropriate language about President Barack Obama while discussing his speech on terrorism the night before in two separate episodes.
The analysts, former U.S. Army Lt. Col. Ralph Peters and actress Stacey Dash, were each ordered off the air for two weeks.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/fox-suspends-2-analysts-language-against-obama/npfDM/
Walt
NEW YORK — Two Fox News contributors were suspended Monday for using inappropriate language about President Barack Obama while discussing his speech on terrorism the night before in two separate episodes.
The analysts, former U.S. Army Lt. Col. Ralph Peters and actress Stacey Dash, were each ordered off the air for two weeks.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/fox-suspends-2-analysts-language-against-obama/npfDM/
Walt
Fox suspends 2 analysts for language against Obama
NEW YORK — Two Fox News contributors were suspended Monday for using inappropriate language about President Barack Obama while discussing his speech on terrorism the night before in two separate episodes.
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CPT Bruce Beattie
I stated that LTC Peters was crude and ungentlemanly. He was suspended for the manner in which he spoke, not the veracity of his statement. The suspension changes nothing. LTC Peters was right and Obama is still a Pussy!
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Capt Walter Miller
CPT Bruce Beattie - Well now.
The U.S. has conducted nearly 6,700 airstrikes in Iraq and Syria against ISIS. How pussy is that?
President Obama told his guys to get OBL and that person wound up with his brains blown out. How pussy is that?
You are just wrong and one frankly has to wonder about racist motivations too.
Walt
The U.S. has conducted nearly 6,700 airstrikes in Iraq and Syria against ISIS. How pussy is that?
President Obama told his guys to get OBL and that person wound up with his brains blown out. How pussy is that?
You are just wrong and one frankly has to wonder about racist motivations too.
Walt
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CPT Bruce Beattie
Really Walt, the "Race Card." You bloviating ignoramus! I happened to have been a "Gold Card" carrying member of the NAACP! Were you? Ever? What a cheap shot! Totally unworthy of a Commissioned Officer. I never would have survived Vietnam if I was a racist. I spent my full tour with the Vietnamese. And always with RFs and PFs. I saw a regular ARVN unit once during my whole tour. I never saw a regular US Army unit. It was the Vietnamese I lived, worked and fought with. They saved my life on several occasions. They wouldn't have done so if I was a racist! As for 6,700 airstrikes. On most of those sorties the aircraft returned to base without ever having expended their ordnance due to overly restrictive ROE. It doesn't take courage to order an air strike. It takes courage to execute that airstrike from the cockpit of an aircraft! The battle is not won because you have flown a large number of air missions. The battle is won only when infantry can occupy that ground without opposition! It didn't take courage to order the raid against OBL. It took courage to be the SEAL operatives who flew deep into unfriendly territory in the dark of night and kicked in that door! All I suggested that you do was to do some reading to assuage your ignorance! In retaliation you allude to my being racist. The shame is that you couldn't even acknowledge that I agreed with you that LTC Peters comments were inappropriate to be made while he was on the air. I know that I can't fix your ignorance without some help from you so, I will no longer try. Having said that, the veracity of LTC Peters remains intact. And, Obama remains a Pussy!
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