Posted on Aug 7, 2023
Prior-service E6 going 35F Intel Analyst. What can I expect from AIT, coming into the job as an E6, and any other info worth mentioning?
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Looking at going going Active Duty Army as prior-service (E6) and hoping to get 35F Intel Analyst. What can I expect for AIT, coming into the job as an E6, and any other info you think is worth mentioning?
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Be the living standard at Huachuca, because inevitably, some of the AIT Soldiers there will end up working for you in the S2 shop.
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I will be the Iron Man to their Spider Man, just without the excessive drinking. Thanks for the tip!
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You're probably going to shortcut actually ever being an analyst. So from a post TRADOC aspect of the MOS I guess career wise that will be your biggest challenge. There are going to be E4's out there that have been analysts for 2 years and more versed in the job and completely capable of managing new analysts and their intel production.
It's not an uncommon situation, it's just what happens when folks reclass with Sr rank.
I guess the biggest challenge will potentially be overseeing production of intel reports and not know intuitively when they are ate up.
There were some E4 and E5 reclass in my initial AIT while I was there as a new recruit. They were more or less left alone to the annoyance of TRADOC and cut loose right after we returned from formation from class (to entirely avoid the continuation of initial AIT fun).
You, being an E6 will probably have further degrees of separation from the "fun" as you'll match rank with most the green suiters the AIT kids will be yelled at by with exception of the PSG and 1SG of the Company.
If you are tasked with simply overseeing S2 administrative stuff you'll be less exposed to the visibility of pushing out intel products that can be very fluid in requirements.
It's not an uncommon situation, it's just what happens when folks reclass with Sr rank.
I guess the biggest challenge will potentially be overseeing production of intel reports and not know intuitively when they are ate up.
There were some E4 and E5 reclass in my initial AIT while I was there as a new recruit. They were more or less left alone to the annoyance of TRADOC and cut loose right after we returned from formation from class (to entirely avoid the continuation of initial AIT fun).
You, being an E6 will probably have further degrees of separation from the "fun" as you'll match rank with most the green suiters the AIT kids will be yelled at by with exception of the PSG and 1SG of the Company.
If you are tasked with simply overseeing S2 administrative stuff you'll be less exposed to the visibility of pushing out intel products that can be very fluid in requirements.
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SSG (Join to see) - I just recall a good friend of my reclassed to 35F as an E7(SFC), but it was an AGR position with the Reserves. So he was pretty OK with it simply doing the admin tasks for an MI reserve Unit, and he wasn't even in the S2.
Then we deployed as augmentees in support of SF intel mission needs. So he went from meeting future soldiers with recruiters, and writing counseling statements to flagged PVT's who fail the PT test to having to knock out Intelligence Products in support of SF missions.
His only exposure to intel products at that time was from his reclass course, and now he's there down range as an E7 in the same peer rank as an active E7 Navy Seal on the same mission.
Soooooooooooooooooooo..................... just be on top of your game.
I went through 35F school at the age of 39, and I was a new soldier. I had college behind me, and a Master's degree. Honestly, wow, what an easy job. Actually doing Intel Production is very easy. All the information is at your finger tips. The hard part is it just knowing the systems (which is what AIT is all about), and in the real world there are more systems you learn based on the mission and sources of data.
It all comes down to learning the data sources for the intel products you are expected to compile, and very much like cranking out college level research papers, and put into power point presentations.
No one want's your opinion. No one cares what you as an E6 think about something. What they care about are your sources from the collective intelligence community.
I say it's easy, because remember, no one cares what you think. It's actually better to simply cut and past the relevant information and make sure you source and classify the information correctly. The sloppiness you are going to draw attention to yourself is going to be the overall format of your presentation. Basically, when copying and pasting from different sources it all needs to flow together like it came from single publisher.
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Remember, when it doubt everything is TS/SCI. You get yelled at for over-classifying something. You go to jail for under-classifying something and letting it spill.
Then we deployed as augmentees in support of SF intel mission needs. So he went from meeting future soldiers with recruiters, and writing counseling statements to flagged PVT's who fail the PT test to having to knock out Intelligence Products in support of SF missions.
His only exposure to intel products at that time was from his reclass course, and now he's there down range as an E7 in the same peer rank as an active E7 Navy Seal on the same mission.
Soooooooooooooooooooo..................... just be on top of your game.
I went through 35F school at the age of 39, and I was a new soldier. I had college behind me, and a Master's degree. Honestly, wow, what an easy job. Actually doing Intel Production is very easy. All the information is at your finger tips. The hard part is it just knowing the systems (which is what AIT is all about), and in the real world there are more systems you learn based on the mission and sources of data.
It all comes down to learning the data sources for the intel products you are expected to compile, and very much like cranking out college level research papers, and put into power point presentations.
No one want's your opinion. No one cares what you as an E6 think about something. What they care about are your sources from the collective intelligence community.
I say it's easy, because remember, no one cares what you think. It's actually better to simply cut and past the relevant information and make sure you source and classify the information correctly. The sloppiness you are going to draw attention to yourself is going to be the overall format of your presentation. Basically, when copying and pasting from different sources it all needs to flow together like it came from single publisher.
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Remember, when it doubt everything is TS/SCI. You get yelled at for over-classifying something. You go to jail for under-classifying something and letting it spill.
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I'm a 35F but I came in 2004 when it was still 96B and from what I heard a few years ago, changed since I went.
When I went, we were still taught conventional stuff and we did a lot of analog - as in acetate overlays on maps. Spent more time on symbology than they do now. We didn't even touch a system (it was ASAS-L then now DCGS-A) until the last few weeks I think. When I was in a section and had junior soldiers a few years ago they said they did nothing with acetate. It was all on DCGS. They spent only a few hours on symbology. I just think people should know how to do things without a computer system since it likes to go down or networks can go out.
We had some reclass when I went. We (IET) were told to not fraternize with them and only associate during class. I don't think their barracks or wherever they stayed were anywhere near us. The drill sergeants didn't do anything with them. It should be pretty chill as reclass.
But realize after AIT, you're most likely ending up in a S2. You might go to a MICO. S2 is all security manager stuff - personnel security, physical security, INFOSEC, etc. Foreign travel briefs. Handling security incidents or security violations. They don't teach us any of that in AIT. If you go to a MICO, you might do analytical work but you as a SSG will supervise probably more than create products. Depends on where you go. Or you could end up in an ACE possibly.
When I went, we were still taught conventional stuff and we did a lot of analog - as in acetate overlays on maps. Spent more time on symbology than they do now. We didn't even touch a system (it was ASAS-L then now DCGS-A) until the last few weeks I think. When I was in a section and had junior soldiers a few years ago they said they did nothing with acetate. It was all on DCGS. They spent only a few hours on symbology. I just think people should know how to do things without a computer system since it likes to go down or networks can go out.
We had some reclass when I went. We (IET) were told to not fraternize with them and only associate during class. I don't think their barracks or wherever they stayed were anywhere near us. The drill sergeants didn't do anything with them. It should be pretty chill as reclass.
But realize after AIT, you're most likely ending up in a S2. You might go to a MICO. S2 is all security manager stuff - personnel security, physical security, INFOSEC, etc. Foreign travel briefs. Handling security incidents or security violations. They don't teach us any of that in AIT. If you go to a MICO, you might do analytical work but you as a SSG will supervise probably more than create products. Depends on where you go. Or you could end up in an ACE possibly.
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SPC Edward Eilers
Went 35F also as a MOS-T, this comment has been true from what I experienced. MOS-T you will be allowed freedom around AIT, not to be around IET soldier’s except in the school house.
As far as your actual job goes, it varies greatly where you end up. Some of my SSG classmates right away became NCOIC’s of their respective units, some at BN, BDE, DIV. In this situation it would be good to understand the 10 and 20 levels jobs, and know the regulations involved so as to enable and empower them. The team around you makes the success.There are times where this work is required of you to take on with a small section and various training of your junior soldiers.
It is a good resource to reach out to your peers in the other echelons, a few up, a few down. Many times they have either come across the same problems or at least heard about how to mitigate them.
As far as your actual job goes, it varies greatly where you end up. Some of my SSG classmates right away became NCOIC’s of their respective units, some at BN, BDE, DIV. In this situation it would be good to understand the 10 and 20 levels jobs, and know the regulations involved so as to enable and empower them. The team around you makes the success.There are times where this work is required of you to take on with a small section and various training of your junior soldiers.
It is a good resource to reach out to your peers in the other echelons, a few up, a few down. Many times they have either come across the same problems or at least heard about how to mitigate them.
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