Posted on Apr 26, 2015
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So I was denied continued service. I was placed on the QMP list for receiving a 4 on my NCOER due to a failed weight in. I had multiple broken bones during that rating period. As soon as I healed the weight came off quick. What I found out was until a few weeks ago my unit did not update DTMS or remove my flag. So when I went in fron of the board it appeared I was still not in compliance. 1st can you appeal on this? And I do have appt with JAG and 2nd who reviews it and decides? I know the appeal has to go up my chain of command but that is all I have been able to find out.
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SGM Matthew Quick
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Did you appeal your NCOER? The current flag has nothing to do with the QMP...the 4 by the senior rater drove that train.

If you did not appeal your NCOER, this doesn't appear to be an appeal-able situation, but you hear many others say to appeal it anyway.

If your commanders (company, battalion, brigade) support your appeal, it'll be forwarded to HRC and the Transition Branch should be the ones to review your appeal.

Additionally...having been QMPed, you're ineligible to enlist/transfer into the reserve components and if under 18 years, you'll only receive 1/2 separation pay.
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SGM Matthew Quick
SGM Matthew Quick
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Did you fail this weigh-in at an NCOES school?
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SFC Michael Hasbun
SFC Michael Hasbun
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She'd have to apply for TERA..
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I did not fail in NCOES it was a normal weigh in for my NCOER
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SSG Mark Franzen
SSG Mark Franzen
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I think the QMP process is a bunch of Bull and I submit my appeal in on time by the time to be signed by the post commander it was late do the Pac NCO had it in his in Box I was in the hospital When I got out which was a day 2 went to follow up on it and I told him to send up for the post commander to sign it well it got disapproved because it was late which think that was not fair also I signed the form in which I SAID I WANT TO REMAIN ON ACTIVE DUTY UNTIL IT WAS TOLD ME THAT IT WAS DISAPPROVED I WISH I COULD HAVE SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE ME UNDERSTAND THAT I SENT ANOTHER APPEAL TO THE QMP BOARD AND THEY SORRY PISSED OFF AT THE WHOLE THING!!!!
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THANK YOU
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Capt Retired
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Fight it as much as you can. And good luck.
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LTC Yinon Weiss
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This is something SGM Matthew Quick may be able to respond to (please respond as a separate response to the original question -- not as a comment on this response).
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SFC Processing Nco
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You can appeal due to missing documents like the flag removal. It may help.
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LTC Substitute Teacher
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No pun intended. I too much weight is put on OERs/NCOERs. Promotion or rentention board shouldnt look back beyond or last rank or maybe 5 years at the most. Most civilian employers public or private could care less how you did 10 years ago.
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LTC Substitute Teacher
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They should also get rid of numerical ratings and just use verbal comments. everyone has to be a max in order to get promoted or even retained!
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SGM Matthew Quick
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Not everyone CAN max everything...no on would get promoted or retained and there would be NO military in this scenario.
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Were you up for promotion when they selected you?
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SFC Jeff Wonser
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I realize that this question is pretty old, but I wanted to give a response as someone who saw their career cut short due to one evaluation in my records... Now, as far as appealing goes, there is not much that can be done, unfortunately. You see, the military is run just as our bloated government is-- inefficient, and compartmentalized. I appealed a report where my reviewer took revenge upon an eval I was due because I had initiated a compassionate reassingment request, and when the command stalled on the paperwork, I reached out to a Senator for assistance. This is an illegal act, but guess what? Unless that person who takes that route against you admits to the investigating officer, there is little that can be done. I have twice attempted to get this reversed through the ABCMR, and both times... nothing. The disparity is easy to see. I have a memorandum from my rater saying that he was given a direct order to sign the report without question. Common sense goes out the window. Good luck on your transition. Fighting an injustice is taxing on your emotional state. Embrace the fact that you got a retirement. Signed... Fast tracker turned 14-year Veteran without a retirement courtesy of the QSP board...
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SSG Occupational Therapy Specialist
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If your at 18 you can elect to retire look at ar 635-200 chapter 19
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