Posted on Jul 12, 2015
GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
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A high-profile shooting, like the June 17 crime that left dead nine members of a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina, is typically followed by calls for greater gun control, along with counter arguments that the best way to stop gun crimes is with more guns.

"The one thing that would have at least ameliorated the horrible situation in Charleston would have been that if somebody in that prayer meeting had a conceal carry or there had been either an off-duty policeman or an on-duty policeman, somebody with the legal authority to carry a firearm and could have stopped the shooter," presidential candidate Mike Huckabee said in a Fox News interview on June 19.

A new study, however, throws cold water on the idea that a well-armed populace deters criminals or prevents murders. Instead, higher ownership of guns in a state is linked to more firearm robberies, more firearm assaults and more homicide in general.

"We found no support for the hypothesis that owning more guns leads to a drop or a reduction in violent crime," said study researcher Michael Monuteaux, an epidemiologist and professor of pediatrics at Harvard Medical School. "Instead, we found the opposite."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/guns-dont-deter-crime-study-finds/ar-AAcDdis
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SMSgt Billy Gilliam
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We all are different. We get our briefs from or parents or those we associate with. Once we accepts those beliefs right or wrong. We get angry and maybe insulting if anyone dares to question those beliefs. Beliefs may be based on facts or no facts. But facts do not lie, But we will lie to ourselves and use made up facts to support our beliefs. In other words we love bullshit if it fits our beliefs. When I was in the military we never insulted another member because of their beliefs as I see rampart in all most all discussion on rally point.
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SMSgt Billy Gilliam
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After the Civil war there were guns every where. However most people in the Cities did not carry guns. To protect unarmed citizens, Towns started passing laws that you could not come into town armed. There were no mass killings until the NRA stropped promoting safety and training and became gun manufacturer mouth piece. Raised up in Oklahoma and Texas there was no mass shooting until you started hearing something similar to babies should have a gun to protect themselves from bad babies. Up until the 70,s no one worried about their second amendments rights. I belonged to the NRA until they became a propaganda machine. I have owned up to 7 guns at one most were given to me for safe keeping. Born and raised during the Great Depression a gun helped feed us. You don't need a military type weapon to hunt for food. let me inform you that the people who wrote the second amendment were the best educated of their time. But most of us are to dumb to understand what they wrote. Therefore we have let others tell us what they wrote and we dumb asses have made them rich and our friends and relatives killed. Being part of a crowd is a greater risk of being killed than mine during 26 years of service.
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PO2 Mike Keyes
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Regardless of what ANY study finds or doesn't find, what Huckabee said was true. Given the fact that the shooter had a gun and the intent to use it, at least one more gun being on the scene would have been better, not worse.
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CW3 Roy Veal
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Find out who financed the study is the first step. When a buyer pays for a study, you know what that buyer wants. And if you want to get paid for the study, your results are what the buyer wants.

Compare gun deaths to the amount of deaths by bloodgeting and stabbing. More knives more clubs more crime
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CW3 Roy Veal
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You can make a study say whatever you want it to say. Guns are not the problem. The second amendment is about liberty. If you don't have the ability to protect yourself then you have no liberty. The second amendment was put forth by a government that had just got through fighting their own military for their freedom. The idea of the second amendment is that that military cannot put out a bigger army than the body of the people. Therefore if the citizery is armed then there will be no overthrow of the citizenery. The second amendment is not about hunting it's about protecting yourself in your community. Now gun crimes is a different story. We're supposed to loose hour right to keep in bare arms because of what insane people do with a gun. I don't see anybody wanting to get rid of cars because of drunk drivers.
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PO2 Randy Cook
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How about providing help to the mentally ill and keeping Criminals locked and tighten the gun checks to include local police and mental health checks. I think that would do a hell of a lot more than trying to take guns away from law abiding citizens! Hung Ho 2nd Amendment!
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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Any Time Our Government Says: "You Don't Need Guns"....
You NEED Guns...
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SPC Kent Laughlin
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bogus study paid for and conducted by morons to facilitate moron goals ..
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SPC Kent Laughlin
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michael is a communist wannabe that researched leftist hysterics writers and made an idiot comment on a known truth... good history of a city armed is from Georgia there michael or is it micheal
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The study was done by MSN end of discussion.

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