Posted on Jul 12, 2015
Recent study finds that more guns does not lead to less crime. What are your thoughts on the issue?
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A high-profile shooting, like the June 17 crime that left dead nine members of a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina, is typically followed by calls for greater gun control, along with counter arguments that the best way to stop gun crimes is with more guns.
"The one thing that would have at least ameliorated the horrible situation in Charleston would have been that if somebody in that prayer meeting had a conceal carry or there had been either an off-duty policeman or an on-duty policeman, somebody with the legal authority to carry a firearm and could have stopped the shooter," presidential candidate Mike Huckabee said in a Fox News interview on June 19.
A new study, however, throws cold water on the idea that a well-armed populace deters criminals or prevents murders. Instead, higher ownership of guns in a state is linked to more firearm robberies, more firearm assaults and more homicide in general.
"We found no support for the hypothesis that owning more guns leads to a drop or a reduction in violent crime," said study researcher Michael Monuteaux, an epidemiologist and professor of pediatrics at Harvard Medical School. "Instead, we found the opposite."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/guns-dont-deter-crime-study-finds/ar-AAcDdis
"The one thing that would have at least ameliorated the horrible situation in Charleston would have been that if somebody in that prayer meeting had a conceal carry or there had been either an off-duty policeman or an on-duty policeman, somebody with the legal authority to carry a firearm and could have stopped the shooter," presidential candidate Mike Huckabee said in a Fox News interview on June 19.
A new study, however, throws cold water on the idea that a well-armed populace deters criminals or prevents murders. Instead, higher ownership of guns in a state is linked to more firearm robberies, more firearm assaults and more homicide in general.
"We found no support for the hypothesis that owning more guns leads to a drop or a reduction in violent crime," said study researcher Michael Monuteaux, an epidemiologist and professor of pediatrics at Harvard Medical School. "Instead, we found the opposite."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/guns-dont-deter-crime-study-finds/ar-AAcDdis
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A "recent study"! You can rig a "study" to say whatever you want. I can't say whether this "study" is legitimate, but I can say that there's a giant pile of "studies" that have turned out to be completely wrong. Stop giving credence to the agendas of other people and listen to your own common sense.
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Criminals for the most part are cowards. I don't believe any "studies" that say more guns means more crime. If a criminal is not sure whether or not the other guy or gal is armed or not, they will think twice about committing most crimes.
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1. MSN is a leftist "news" organization and generally as trustworthy as 60 Minutes, which has ZERO credibility.
2. Professor of pediatrics and epidemiologist is hardly the best "studies" compared to those done by serious, professional, criminologists, who use FBI uniform crime statistics instead of pre-conceived feelings to formulate decisions.
3. Harvard Medical School? What a joke! The anti-gun answer is a pre-determined outcome given it came from this extreme leftist anti-gun 'university'.
4. Gunny, either you are just trying to stir up a bunch of nonsense just for fun, or you are just full of leftist gun-grabbing socialist bull spit. Either way, you're batting way out of your league here.
5. The real answer to your question is that squeamish leftists, who refuse to punish people who misuse firearms in their criminal activities is what the problem in America today. It has nothing to do with the number of legally owned firearms by law abiding Americans who use their firearms for legitimate purposes, never has and never will.
2. Professor of pediatrics and epidemiologist is hardly the best "studies" compared to those done by serious, professional, criminologists, who use FBI uniform crime statistics instead of pre-conceived feelings to formulate decisions.
3. Harvard Medical School? What a joke! The anti-gun answer is a pre-determined outcome given it came from this extreme leftist anti-gun 'university'.
4. Gunny, either you are just trying to stir up a bunch of nonsense just for fun, or you are just full of leftist gun-grabbing socialist bull spit. Either way, you're batting way out of your league here.
5. The real answer to your question is that squeamish leftists, who refuse to punish people who misuse firearms in their criminal activities is what the problem in America today. It has nothing to do with the number of legally owned firearms by law abiding Americans who use their firearms for legitimate purposes, never has and never will.
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It's not the guns at all, rather the intent of the person. If they are determined to hurt or kill someone, they will find the means to do so, gun or no gun.
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SSG (Join to see)
PO2 Brian Rhodes - That is exactly right! Someone wanting to do harm WILL find a means to do so.
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More guns in the wrong hands sounds like a better statement, which why I support some gun control measures.
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SSgt James Kirkpatrick
...because it's SO much..... nicer, to be killed by something OTHER than a firearm, right..?
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SSgt James Kirkpatrick
Funny, I was under the impression that folks here all took the same oath.... "to protect and defend the constitution of the United States, from all enemies, foreign and domestic". The Constitution, AS WRITTEN, says the government "shall not infringe" on the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
So either convince 3/4 of the states to amend the constitution, or honor your oath.
So either convince 3/4 of the states to amend the constitution, or honor your oath.
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Switzerland has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the world, with 45.7 guns per 100 residents (ranking below only the United States, Serbia, and Yemen in this measurement).
A list of countries by firearm-related death rate shows Switzerland as having 6.4 firearm deaths per 100,000 population per year, a figure considerably lower than in the United States (10.27) but higher than a number of other countries. As for gun-related crime in general, a 2001 BBC article reported that in Switzerland "the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept."
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/switzerland.asp#YH16A5AgGVOkXTIm.99
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
"Guns are deeply rooted within Swiss culture - but the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1566715.stm
A list of countries by firearm-related death rate shows Switzerland as having 6.4 firearm deaths per 100,000 population per year, a figure considerably lower than in the United States (10.27) but higher than a number of other countries. As for gun-related crime in general, a 2001 BBC article reported that in Switzerland "the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept."
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/switzerland.asp#YH16A5AgGVOkXTIm.99
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
"Guns are deeply rooted within Swiss culture - but the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1566715.stm
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SP6 Peter Kreutzfeldt
PV2 Larry Sellnow - Don't place all Americans in one category. Many of us have ideas and opinions on the subject. Over the years it has become quite clear what the government's intentions are when it come to gun control. Subliminal suggestions through the media directed at angry and mentally impaired people is perhaps the biggest cause for criminal shootings in our country. The left leaning media and government loves these events, gives them more fodder to further their agenda.
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Ah yes, the new world that defies any and all logic. Folks that support this hyperbole are likely to supprot hamas also.
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Question? Back in the 1800s when towns and cities made people leave their guns out side the city limit or they could not enter. no one screamed "This is against our 2nd amendment rights? L once was a NRA member, but stopped when they become gun manufactures mouthpiece. Even when owning 7 guns of various types, I was and am for strict gun control. Gun safety is a must before owning a gun. I have a scar on my neck from a bullet fired by a kid in plain sight of me.. My best friend was shot.in the belly by a kid 3 feet from him. These were kids taken by their fathers to learn how to hunt. Three and 4 year old killing other kids. Would NRA try to sell the public that your baby needs a gun to protect them from bad babies if it brought in more dollars?
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When ethics , integrity and facts take a back seat to a political agenda, MSM can't be trusted to deliver truth. Do your own research and don't become one of the willfully blind and intentionally ignorant oblivious to reality
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