Posted on Sep 8, 2015
Retired Marine's uniform: Is this stolen valor or is there another reason?
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I came across this article and related picture and just about lost my mind. For the life of me I can't think why a retired Marine would go so far outside the box regarding uniform standards (e.g. blood stripe in white trousers, mini-medals in dress blues, etc.). What do you think?
ABILENE, Texas (May 24, 2015) - For Marine Gunnery Sgt. Richard Dobbins, Memorial Day has a great meaning. But it's not one that's unique to him.
The Vietnam War veteran said he lost friends on the battlefield. They were together through good times and bad times, he said.
But more good than bad, he quickly added.
"(Memorial Day) means missing my friends in the service," he said. "I lost a couple buddies in Vietnam. It makes me think of when I was stationed in Spain. We went to Japan, saw Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We were taken to Tokyo."
Dobbins spent Sunday morning dressed in his service uniform, surrounded by Boy Scouts, fellow veterans and interested onlookers at Elmdale Baptist Church. They, along with worshippers, paid tribute to fallen soldiers, former prisoners of war and other combat veterans.
http://www.reporternews.com/news/local-news/memorial-day-service-honors-those-who-served-and-those-who-still-serve_39209276
ABILENE, Texas (May 24, 2015) - For Marine Gunnery Sgt. Richard Dobbins, Memorial Day has a great meaning. But it's not one that's unique to him.
The Vietnam War veteran said he lost friends on the battlefield. They were together through good times and bad times, he said.
But more good than bad, he quickly added.
"(Memorial Day) means missing my friends in the service," he said. "I lost a couple buddies in Vietnam. It makes me think of when I was stationed in Spain. We went to Japan, saw Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We were taken to Tokyo."
Dobbins spent Sunday morning dressed in his service uniform, surrounded by Boy Scouts, fellow veterans and interested onlookers at Elmdale Baptist Church. They, along with worshippers, paid tribute to fallen soldiers, former prisoners of war and other combat veterans.
http://www.reporternews.com/news/local-news/memorial-day-service-honors-those-who-served-and-those-who-still-serve_39209276
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While I cringe at seeing the uniform worn incorrectly, I must admit that after 25 years of not wearing the uniform, I sometimes have a hard time remembering the correct order of ribbons or medals. I would prefer that the uniform always be worn correctly.
That said, if it is stolen valor, then I believe the penalty should be jail or financial. Or, send them to combat so that they have the chance to earn that valor they so crave.
Don't live them live a lie, let them actually experience the reality!
That said, if it is stolen valor, then I believe the penalty should be jail or financial. Or, send them to combat so that they have the chance to earn that valor they so crave.
Don't live them live a lie, let them actually experience the reality!
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I can tell you that my uniform as a retiree is far from perfect when I pull it out for Memorial Day, but I wear it to honor those we are remembering on that day. At the same time, I'm going to drop $100s to get it back up to perfect.
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Imposter, pose, wanna-be. There is no way a retired GYSGT with over 20 years of experience is going to parade around in this concoction of a uniform. He has probably told the same lies so many times he now believes them. There is a big difference between telling big, exaggerated sea stories and this.
Bottom line: If you didn't earn, don't wear it. If you do, you are a thief and a liar. Hopefully he will be publicly outed as a fake.
Perhaps a few real Marines need to visit Elmdale Baptist next Memorial Day and see if this clown shows his face.
Bottom line: If you didn't earn, don't wear it. If you do, you are a thief and a liar. Hopefully he will be publicly outed as a fake.
Perhaps a few real Marines need to visit Elmdale Baptist next Memorial Day and see if this clown shows his face.
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There are dress regulations governing the wearing of service uniforms by retired personnel. This guy is not "regulation" in my judgment. Makes me wonder if he is a real Marine, or a "wanna be" imposter.
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“From the Halls of Montezuma” - I've never seen blood stripes on Dress Whites. Not sure if he's a fake (E3 or below would raise my suspicion). If I saw him I would ask him about his trousers - while unauthorized he might of added the blood stripes out of respect from his fallen friends. However as he is engaging with the Scouts it would be nice if he maintained the standards.
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Blue-White Dress[edit]
Blue-White and Red Dress Uniforms
Prior to 1998, the "Blue-White" dress uniform was authorized to be worn for the ceremonial units at Marine Barracks, 8th & I in Washington, D.C. (most famously the Silent Drill Platoon and Color guard). Since then, it has become the authorized summer dress uniform for all officers (it replaced, in 2000, an all-white uniform, similar in appearance to that of the Naval Officer/CPO white dress uniform), SNCOs (unless they are in formation with NCOs and junior enlisted personnel who are not authorized to wear the uniform), and by NCOs and junior enlisted personnel for ceremonies and social events only, if authorized and provided by the command structure.
Like the Blue Dress uniform, the Blue-White Dress consists of an "A" and "B" uniform, and is worn in the same manner as that of the Blue Dress uniform, except for the trousers, skirt, or slacks being white instead of blue. Unlike the Dress Blues, the Blue-White Dress uniforms do not feature the "blood stripe". As with the Dress Blues, the "A" is not authorized for leave and liberty wear. The white trousers are not authorized for wear with either the long-sleeved or the short-sleeved khaki shirt, precluding the "C" and "D" uniforms.
Blue-White and Red Dress Uniforms
Prior to 1998, the "Blue-White" dress uniform was authorized to be worn for the ceremonial units at Marine Barracks, 8th & I in Washington, D.C. (most famously the Silent Drill Platoon and Color guard). Since then, it has become the authorized summer dress uniform for all officers (it replaced, in 2000, an all-white uniform, similar in appearance to that of the Naval Officer/CPO white dress uniform), SNCOs (unless they are in formation with NCOs and junior enlisted personnel who are not authorized to wear the uniform), and by NCOs and junior enlisted personnel for ceremonies and social events only, if authorized and provided by the command structure.
Like the Blue Dress uniform, the Blue-White Dress consists of an "A" and "B" uniform, and is worn in the same manner as that of the Blue Dress uniform, except for the trousers, skirt, or slacks being white instead of blue. Unlike the Dress Blues, the Blue-White Dress uniforms do not feature the "blood stripe". As with the Dress Blues, the "A" is not authorized for leave and liberty wear. The white trousers are not authorized for wear with either the long-sleeved or the short-sleeved khaki shirt, precluding the "C" and "D" uniforms.
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt
Thanks for the clarification. I hadn't noticed that the Marines had dumped the summer dress white officer uniform, the uniform my Marine classmates from NROTC wore to commissioning so many years ago. I was a big fan of that one, but, then again, I also loved our cotton Service Dress White, starched so they could stand by themselves.
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This guy is 100% fake. Nobody forgets uniform protocol and the ribbon panels. Mini-medals on that jacket? Huh Uh. You gotta' call this guy on his BS. Whisper to him you know he is a fake and to stop TODAY or you will gather a couple of vet buddies and take it off him. Do you know his real name and if so is he wearing a name tag with his last name? This is stolen valor. And we can't allow it....
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PO1 Pete Sikes
The story said he is real, but has dementia, he may not ever remember his wife or kids, just that he served as a Marine.
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