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Ok, so this might be a bit cliche. And I need some help with this because I despise stolen Valor. This guy is saying he went to both OCS and ROTC. He is saying he was an O3. Is this even possible?
Officer Candidate School (OCS) (Army)
ROTC
Army ROTC
CPT
Posted 5 y ago
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There were some folks in my OCS class who had either quit or failed out of West Point, ROTC, and The Citadel. I’m sure they all made O3...
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Possible? Yes. Went to HS with a guy who enlisted, did ROTC green to gold, left college, reenlisted and then eventually earned an OCS slot. Retired as an O4.
The fact that your post is about Mr_Nobody leads me to think he is a troll or BSer. Possible, not probable. He is also being incredibly cryptic in the responses. The person pressing him doesn't have the experience / knowledge to press the right questions.
The fact that your post is about Mr_Nobody leads me to think he is a troll or BSer. Possible, not probable. He is also being incredibly cryptic in the responses. The person pressing him doesn't have the experience / knowledge to press the right questions.
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LTC Jason Mackay
SGT Robert McCuistion - is it really that critical to yell gotcha! Over this shitbird? Their short cryptic responses indicate to me they are FOS.
When you say ROTC in the post, are they thinking JROTC? Most do not understand the difference.
If this is a moral imperative, I would ask:
- wow both, that is interesting. How did you do that? (They'd have to have left one or the other and pursued the other...unless they are a direct commission doctor, Chaplain, or lawyer) let them pay out their own rope.
- When did you contract for ROTC? (No contract = no commission)
- where and when did you do Advanced Camp? (If you didn't do Camp, you didn't commission through ROTC. 100% of those commissioning through ROTC do Camp at the end of their Jr or Sr year) You could also ask them which cycle they went through. I went through 7th cycle at Ft Bragg 1992. Anyone commissioning from the late 70s onward would have this experience.
- which college did you attend? When did you graduate? (There was a time you only needed 60 credits for OCS and you had to do degree completion. If he "retired" as a CPT and wasn't medically retired he'd have to have a bachelor's degree to comply with federal law. he'd also likely need 10 years enlisted and 10 years Commissioned. That's the only way I could make that math come out, otherwise he'd retire at his highest enlisted grade or would have been promoted to O4)
- when did you commission? Which branch?
- what year group were you? (This should be the year they commissioned)
- Which OCS Class were you in?
- Where did you do OCS? This is tricky. If they are Vietnam era, each branch ran their own OCS. So OCS may have been in Benning, Knox, Aberdeen, etc. again pay out the line and see what they tell you. Also, states run their own OCS for the ARNG.
which branch is this person? My list above really applies to the Army. Navy and USAF also have ROTC. USAF has OTS vice OCS.
When you say ROTC in the post, are they thinking JROTC? Most do not understand the difference.
If this is a moral imperative, I would ask:
- wow both, that is interesting. How did you do that? (They'd have to have left one or the other and pursued the other...unless they are a direct commission doctor, Chaplain, or lawyer) let them pay out their own rope.
- When did you contract for ROTC? (No contract = no commission)
- where and when did you do Advanced Camp? (If you didn't do Camp, you didn't commission through ROTC. 100% of those commissioning through ROTC do Camp at the end of their Jr or Sr year) You could also ask them which cycle they went through. I went through 7th cycle at Ft Bragg 1992. Anyone commissioning from the late 70s onward would have this experience.
- which college did you attend? When did you graduate? (There was a time you only needed 60 credits for OCS and you had to do degree completion. If he "retired" as a CPT and wasn't medically retired he'd have to have a bachelor's degree to comply with federal law. he'd also likely need 10 years enlisted and 10 years Commissioned. That's the only way I could make that math come out, otherwise he'd retire at his highest enlisted grade or would have been promoted to O4)
- when did you commission? Which branch?
- what year group were you? (This should be the year they commissioned)
- Which OCS Class were you in?
- Where did you do OCS? This is tricky. If they are Vietnam era, each branch ran their own OCS. So OCS may have been in Benning, Knox, Aberdeen, etc. again pay out the line and see what they tell you. Also, states run their own OCS for the ARNG.
which branch is this person? My list above really applies to the Army. Navy and USAF also have ROTC. USAF has OTS vice OCS.
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I guess he could have gone to ROTC and dropped before getting his commission. Then enlisted and later went to OCS. While I haven't heard about it I saw two people in my ROTC refuse their commissions and go enlisted due to their contract.
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SGT Robert McCuistion
Appreciated sir, I just wanted to verify. I'm not one to shy away from calling someone out.
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James Meyer
SGT Robert McCuistion typical cop/trigger happy service member. You should not be serving my country.
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Other comments indicate it is possible, but if he had lived it, he would be able to explain how he ended up doing both.
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There are OCS and NROTC in the mix within the Marine option of NROTC units. Of course it’s not the same as the college grad to NAVY OCS or the straight NROTC to the Navy as an officer. If the Marine program he could easily come out O-3 after 3.5 yrs from date of commission under current DOPMA Legislation. Title 10 USC.
The “I did somehow” is just nuts...everyone I know who has done the Marine thing is quite aware of all the hoops required ..unless like me who jokes about getting through the whole of the selection process then through NROTC how did I make it? Looking at the ones who didn’t “beats the s—t out of me.”
The “I did somehow” is just nuts...everyone I know who has done the Marine thing is quite aware of all the hoops required ..unless like me who jokes about getting through the whole of the selection process then through NROTC how did I make it? Looking at the ones who didn’t “beats the s—t out of me.”
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SGT Robert McCuistion
Sir, I've resolved the issue, he admitted to Stolen Valor. He told me he just mashed some terms that he learned together and i told him if he wanted to claim the uniform, he needed to earn it. Not sure how to close this post though. I do appreciate your help however.
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You can do both, you just can't commission via both (i.e. complete a couple/few years of ROTC, leave early, and go to OCS to commission)
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SGT Robert McCuistion
Thank you sir, but I pressed him and he broke. Admitted to Stealing Valor. Told him he wants to claim the uniform, he needs to earn it. Thank you though sir.
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I’ve heard of commissioning as an O-3 if you possess a doctorate degree. However, I find it impractical to attend both OCS or ROTC, due to the fact that they end with the same result.
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SrA Brandon Diamond
SGT Robert McCuistion
Usually when someone steals valor, they have all kinds of red flags. I’ve personally never dealt with an individual that tried to steal valor. It’s easy to figure out the phonies, however, there have been instances where certain individuals were accused of stolen valor and as it turned out they were in fact telling the truth.
Usually when someone steals valor, they have all kinds of red flags. I’ve personally never dealt with an individual that tried to steal valor. It’s easy to figure out the phonies, however, there have been instances where certain individuals were accused of stolen valor and as it turned out they were in fact telling the truth.
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SGT Robert McCuistion
SrA Brandon Diamond that's why I'm asking here as opposed to blatantly confronting him. I'm not well versed in this. I hope he is, because he seems like a genuine person, but... I'm not entirely sure.
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SrA Brandon Diamond
SGT Robert McCuistion
I’ve never heard of any individual attending both OCS & ROTC. It would be a waste of money and resources. I applaud you for gathering all of the facts before you confront this individual about his claims. I’m positive that they’re plenty of commissioned officers that can weigh in on this. I could be wrong, but this individual seems like a fake to me.
I’ve never heard of any individual attending both OCS & ROTC. It would be a waste of money and resources. I applaud you for gathering all of the facts before you confront this individual about his claims. I’m positive that they’re plenty of commissioned officers that can weigh in on this. I could be wrong, but this individual seems like a fake to me.
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This looks like a conversation on the Discord platform (primarily for video gaming) where this user tried to 1 up you after you told him you were Military.
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SGT Robert McCuistion
It is, I don't really know the right questions to ask. And I want to get to the bottom of this since he's been telling all the people on my server that he was in country. What should I do?
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Honestly, I wouldn’t pay any mins to the dude, unfortunately you get people online who need to feel accomplished and important. Best you could do is fact check him, call him out then move on. SGT Robert McCuistion
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Are you sure he's Army? The Marine Corps makes their ROTC students go through a form of OCS (its just shorter than if you didn't do ROTC).
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SGT Robert McCuistion
Positive sir, I made sure that I was very clear about that with him. I have family in the other branches sir, but I was the only enlisted. I appreciate the info, I never knew about that.
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Possibly true. As to being a captain, most officers make O3 if they aren’t red lined by their command. Yes a person could start ROTC in college, discontinue taking ROTC at some point, get their degree anyway, and then complete OCS. Happens for a variety of reasons. Changing schools, demanding curriculum leaving no time for ROTC, not wanting to commission into theService of the ROTC available, flunking out.
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