Posted on Jan 3, 2015
SPC Stephanie Oanes
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Alright so heres the scenario: you have a friend who you've known for the past few years that you deployed with and you spend a lot of this time with this person since you both left the military. Everytime you both go somewhere, he/she brags to store employees, waitresses, anyone who will listen, about how they killed people, got blown up, etc when in reality, their deployment was QUITE the opposite and have no badges, medals as proof to show for it!? And then also blames PTSD for everything? Would you call your friend out and risk losing the friendship? Or would you let them continue to fabricate their story to let them feel like a badass and ignore it? I feel like this is offensive because you have soldiers who experienced things like this and now they have to live with things like PTSD for the rest of their lives. You have those who are truly affected by things like this, and then those that fake it and in this case, the friend who is faking it to feel like a badass overseas.
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CMSgt James Nolan
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SPC Stephanie Oanes It obviously is affecting your relationship already. Be honest, square her away, and let the chips fall. If the relationship means anything to her, it will end. If it does not, it will end anyway.

We all exaggerate things. It is our nature to make ourselves look cool. It is another matter, in my opinion to tell stories of combat, that are non-existent.

Good luck.
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1LT William Clardy
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SPC Stephanie Oanes, I'd privately call them out for being a BS artist and a liar -- which would probably terminate the friendship unless they started getting honest or at least ceased and desisted the braggadocio.

If the one-on-one had no effect, the next time I happened to be within earshot of their boasting, I'd be inclined to counter with one or three humorous but ego-deprecating tales about them from any common deployment.

And if those two warning shots didn't deter them, then I'd tell the bald-a**ed truth whenever asked by a mutual acquaintance: "Yes, I was over there with him. No, I don't have any stories as exciting as his because it was really pretty tame where we were at -- I got stuck doing parking enforcement around the headquarters building and he was tasked with keeping the sergeant major's square yard of grass neatly trimmed."
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SSG William Patton
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LT, I do the same. I have even written an op-ed response in my local newspaper when a former high school classmate and so called friend, had a huge piece written about him after Vietnam. In the artilce he claimed to be a highly decorated gun ship pilot, who flew many hazardous missions. The reality was he was in my unit in Vietnam. Ironically, there were three, including myself, from the same high school graduating class, in the unit. This guy was an RTO in the operations center and was a PFC and never achieved a higher rank. When I saw his write up, I went ballistic. If ever a case of stolen valor, he committed it and I responded the following week with what he really did. This guy was a habitual liar and con man and eventually got his just desert. He is currently in prison serving one of many sentences from defrauding rich widows of their money.
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PO1 Donald Hammond
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Dang, stuff I did in the military only needs small *cough cough* embellishments. "This is a no shitter ... " How all sea stories start out. :)

But if you have a "friend" lying to everyone then you might want to get far away from that person. If you decide to talk to the person, do it in private, not in public. Explain that you really don't like the tall tales and if they insist on telling them, you will not continue the relationship.
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SSG Eric Kelley
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I think COL Smallfield said it all.
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SFC Indirect Fire Infantryman (Mortarman)
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Almost as bad as stolen valor, actually worse. Be proud of your service, only 1% of Americans do what we do. Correct them and if they do it again cut sling load.

Who knows what else they lie about. Just my two cents.
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SSG Tim Everett
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The incidents described in the OP are integrity and honour violations. That person would no longer be my friend.
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TSgt Jackie Jones
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Couple thoughts:

1. Why are you such close friends with a liar?
2. If you are close, you should be able to talk to them about it.
3. If you're thinking of calling them out in public, you aren't that close.
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SSG Unit Supply Specialist
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You should already know what the right answer is. though friendships come and go you will definitely have to reevaluate your friendship with the, if your friend respects you and your friendship then maybe just maybe they will listen. if they dont listen is the friendship worth it knowing they are blatantly lying?
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SPC Stephanie Oanes
SPC Stephanie Oanes
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well yeah you're right Jase
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SPC(P) Jay Heenan
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You pull them off to the side and tell them to stop the bullsh!t. If you say nothing, you are basically being culpable in this situation. You have to decide what is more important, your integrity or friendship with a person without integrity. Just my two cents.
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CPT Assistant Operations Officer (S3)
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I love these. I deal with these pretty harsh. First, I try to insinuate that they are embellishing and if that doesn't work they will be put in their place.
I have had my challenges in the past with this. I don’t joke about it. It adversely affects many people. You can tell when a soldier has it. I have a soldier in my platoon that has a severe case of PTSD. He is fine but it can flare up. He doesn’t let it cripple him or let it show. So to have a fake, and that is what he is, brag about this is disgusting to me.
When I first got back I had a friend of my wife talk to me about the military. He was deployed to Afghan in 03 as a helicopter refueling at some mega base. Needless to say he didn’t see anything happen. We were talking and he made a reference about how he deals with PTSD and that we know what we been through. I snapped and let him have it. We are still friends but he realized he was being hurtful. He thought he knew but he really didn’t.
That is not a friend. A fake is a fake. If they lie about their service to gain attention how can you trust a person? Would you feel comfortable that they wouldn’t make statements about you just for attention? A person like that is also hurting the credibility of soldiers. People see their BS and think PTSD is not real or is something that they can just over. They think that because they never seen a real case of it due to all the fakes out there. I still don’t sleep well. But people like that just want the attention and the hero factor that comes along with it. If you don’t address it is the same as letting a drunk get a drink.
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SSG V. Michelle Woods
SSG V. Michelle Woods
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Lol I think you'd like to go Old Testament on them.

I had a soldier pretend to be MI while hitting on me. After about two minutes into the conversation I called him out.

Infantryman. Ha! I knew it.
:)
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