Posted on Dec 3, 2014
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During Urban Ops training being conducted during BCT, is it permissible for the Co XO (male) to punch to punch a female IET soldier in the face? This happened to one of my NCOs younger cousins and they are seeking guidance? The Co Commander has contacted the female IET soldier's parents advising them NOT to press charges. According to TRADOC regs was the XOs action acceptable? I don't mean to bother anyone or step on any toes, I just wanted to help a good NCO who has always taken care of his soldiers.
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PV2 William Parker
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
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Like SSG Tim Everett stated, physically striking a Soldier isn't tolerated. However, we used to role play scenarios practicing subduing angry crowds and civil disobedience in our urban ops training. Our role players would give moderate résistance to being searched or detained. to being In these events, occasionally there would be incidental contact
Nevertheless, the incident should be investigated
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
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They do go out the way to protect and shield the IET Soldiers like rare China or the last of bottle of water on Earth
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PV2 William Parker, it is NEVER ok to make any negative contact to a soldier, EVER! The only time a Drill Sergeant should put hands on a soldier is if it is to ensure the safety and livelihood of others. On the matter that you brought up about the CO speaking to the trainee's parents, I would not jump to any conclusions. However, the Army, especially in TRADOC, will take care of the punishment for the XO. But do yourself a favor and just stay clear of it and llow the investigation that I am sure is going on take its course.
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Cpl John Barker
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Snitches get stitches, what happens in Boot Camp stays in Boot Camp
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SSG Tim Everett
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Call me crazy CW2 (Join to see) but I don't think anyone here who served starting in like the late 80s is going to tell you that it's okay to punch a trainee, whether male-on-female or otherwise.
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1SG David Niles
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I would go so far as to say the mid 80's, not acceptable then, not acceptable now, but doing lots of pushups and getting yelled at, well that was acceptable. Oh and flutter kicks. My I hate flutter kicks. 
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1SG Michael Blount
1SG Michael Blount
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@SSG Tim Everett - there are two basic rules for Drill Sergeant behavior IRT Privates. Push them as hard as you like (subject to training abuse rules), but no touching (unless life, limb or eyesight is in jeopardy) and no fighting.
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I am not a Drill Sergeant, but I work in a TRADOC environment, and nowhere in TR 350-6 which everyone in TRADOC has to know, says that a cadre member can punch an IET Soldier. Of course, I don't know the details of how the incident happened, so there might be other things that we are not aware of
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CW2 Uh 60 M Pilot
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Roger Sergeant, I appreciate your help.
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