Posted on Dec 13, 2023
After initially being selected for SELCON, do I go through the SELCON process every year? Do I get to serve until I reach my MRD?
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I am a 2x non-select for LTC, and I was selected for SELCON. Do I go through the SELCON process every year? Will the army kick me out if I don't get promoted after the third/fourth/etc. promotion board? Or do I get to serve until I reach my MRD? I currently working on my ILE.
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Short answer is that in all likelihood, you'll be allowed to go to your retirement eligibility and then forced to retire.
I would be remiss if I didn't pile on (I assume) with your other leadership and verbally slap you upside your head for not only being non-educationally qualified for O-5 promotion because of not having completed your ILE-Common Core before the board, but for doing it twice! In your previous question* I wasn't aware that you took yourself out by not being educationally qualified for promotion.
Belated chastisement over. Having said that, to your questions (these are specific to a reserve component officer - RA officers are slightly different).
I referenced AR 600-8-29* (Officer Promotions) in your previous question because it lays out the specifics of being SELCON (specifically para 3-14). Your SELCON period varies and should have been specified in your notification.
GENERALLY, the SELCON period will depend on your retirement eligibility (i.e., 'getting your 20'). It could be 'indefinite', but in no case will you be allowed to continue beyond 24 years of commissioned service as an O-4. USUALLY your SELCON period will take you to your retirement eligibility if you're within six years of eligibility and USUALLY will be a few years if outside of that range (i.e., you were on the fast track because normally you'd be within six years of retirement eligibility when you go before your first board).
You won't go before another SELCON board during that period, however you do continue to go before the promotion board each year. If you're not promoted, retired, or seperated for something else before that period expires, then you'll be separated on the end date of that period (unless you're within two years of retirement eligibility).
Again, the specifics on the period of your SELCON should have been included with your notification. Make sure you look at the top of the notification as sometimes it's not spelled out in the body of the message and has some easily looked over item (i.e., "E: 1 JUN 2025" or something like that). If there isn't a period specified, then you'll have to contact the POC to verify that it is "until you his 24 years commissioned service" or if for some reason it was not included.
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* https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/recommended-for-selcon-how-long-do-i-have
* AR 600-8-29 - https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN30301-AR_600-8-29-000-WEB-1.pdf
I would be remiss if I didn't pile on (I assume) with your other leadership and verbally slap you upside your head for not only being non-educationally qualified for O-5 promotion because of not having completed your ILE-Common Core before the board, but for doing it twice! In your previous question* I wasn't aware that you took yourself out by not being educationally qualified for promotion.
Belated chastisement over. Having said that, to your questions (these are specific to a reserve component officer - RA officers are slightly different).
I referenced AR 600-8-29* (Officer Promotions) in your previous question because it lays out the specifics of being SELCON (specifically para 3-14). Your SELCON period varies and should have been specified in your notification.
GENERALLY, the SELCON period will depend on your retirement eligibility (i.e., 'getting your 20'). It could be 'indefinite', but in no case will you be allowed to continue beyond 24 years of commissioned service as an O-4. USUALLY your SELCON period will take you to your retirement eligibility if you're within six years of eligibility and USUALLY will be a few years if outside of that range (i.e., you were on the fast track because normally you'd be within six years of retirement eligibility when you go before your first board).
You won't go before another SELCON board during that period, however you do continue to go before the promotion board each year. If you're not promoted, retired, or seperated for something else before that period expires, then you'll be separated on the end date of that period (unless you're within two years of retirement eligibility).
Again, the specifics on the period of your SELCON should have been included with your notification. Make sure you look at the top of the notification as sometimes it's not spelled out in the body of the message and has some easily looked over item (i.e., "E: 1 JUN 2025" or something like that). If there isn't a period specified, then you'll have to contact the POC to verify that it is "until you his 24 years commissioned service" or if for some reason it was not included.
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* https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/recommended-for-selcon-how-long-do-i-have
* AR 600-8-29 - https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN30301-AR_600-8-29-000-WEB-1.pdf
Since I was recommended for SELCON, what is my new mandatory retirement date? Do I at least get...
I learned recently that I was recommended for SELCON (I am currently a Major and now a 2x non-select). I want to continue serving. However, what is now my new mandatory retirement date? Do I at least get to serve 20 years and retire? I read that I can serve up to 24 years. When will HRC update my MRD? Thank you in advance!
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COL Cudworth, here's one that will blow your mind (or not). I just left the ARNG for the USAR because my state decided to give one officer BN command and another a War College slot who were both majors for 10 years on SELCON for.... you guessed it, not completing ILE on time. They basically told the rest of us to eat the 3-4 years those two caused. Apparently "Big Army" places officers in that position in the bottom 1/3 of their peer group in this situation but I digress.
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COL Randall C.
LTC (Join to see) - Disappointing But not surprising.
Of all the different components of the military, the National Guard is the most political, both internally within the State and externally with the U.S. Congress (after all, frequently each state's military leadership has two federal Senators and a number Representatives that will take their calls and/or meeting requests).
Of all the different components of the military, the National Guard is the most political, both internally within the State and externally with the U.S. Congress (after all, frequently each state's military leadership has two federal Senators and a number Representatives that will take their calls and/or meeting requests).
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COL Randall C. - I was an E6 and a W2 over my almost 30 years in the ARNG. I'm rolling into the USAR with a ton of KD time strapped with ILE/AOC complete and looking forward to the transparency and fairness. Still have 9 years to go until MRD.
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This HQDA Policy is clear as mud to me....but your answer may be found in Appendix C
https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN30242-HQDA_POLICY_NOTICE_600-2-000-WEB-1.pdf
https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN30242-HQDA_POLICY_NOTICE_600-2-000-WEB-1.pdf
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I know someone who was a major on active duty who was selcon and stayed a major for 10 years and did eventually get selected for LTC. He was Number 1 on the promotion list
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I was passed over once, resigned and went to the reserve component. I just hit 20 years active now as a reservist, I'm also being looked at for COL.
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