Posted on Jun 30, 2015
Sharia law vs. gay rights. Is our country headed for a conflict?
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There has been a lot of movement in two opposite, conflicting directions. On the one hand we now have legalized gay marriage, and on the other a growing movement to adopt Sharia Law in the US. On the surface they don't really seem to have anything to do with one another. I mean, we should be equally tolerant of muslims and homosexuals. Right?
Unfortunately for both groups there are some real dilemmas coming. For example: Will mosques and imams be required to perform same-sex marriages in the same way that Christian churches and pastors will be? A recent study determined that 51% of muslims living in this country support the adoption of Sharia Law. Islam and Sharia Law isn't too friendly toward homosexuals, and it has been widely reported for throwing gay men from rooftops among other things.
How are these two groups going to coexist in a country where acceptance of gay marriage has been institutionalized and many Congressional representatives and other government officials advocate for institutional acceptance of Sharia Law?
Also up for discussion is the "war on women" and sharia law in the US. How do these two groups coexist with opposing viewpoints on the role of women in society?
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Unfortunately for both groups there are some real dilemmas coming. For example: Will mosques and imams be required to perform same-sex marriages in the same way that Christian churches and pastors will be? A recent study determined that 51% of muslims living in this country support the adoption of Sharia Law. Islam and Sharia Law isn't too friendly toward homosexuals, and it has been widely reported for throwing gay men from rooftops among other things.
How are these two groups going to coexist in a country where acceptance of gay marriage has been institutionalized and many Congressional representatives and other government officials advocate for institutional acceptance of Sharia Law?
Also up for discussion is the "war on women" and sharia law in the US. How do these two groups coexist with opposing viewpoints on the role of women in society?
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LTC Bink Romanick Here you go. Brietbart is an aggregator. That means they link to news stories from other sources. Breitbart didn't necessarily do the research, but they reported on it. Just because you don't see it on your preferred news source doesn't make it automatically disreputable. With somewhere between 3-7 million muslims in the US that means somewhere between 1.5-3.5 million of them would prefer to have sharia law.
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Where on earth is there any evidence of a movement towards Sharia Law. Please document and please no blogs, etc.
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I don't se the conflict coming, I do not have a side in this matter, so far the issue do not affect me
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I am tolerant of Muslims. I am not tolerant of acts or laws which hurt others regardless of if its an ancient custom or part of someone's religion.
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I'm sure other people have already said it, but I'll succinctly add that government cannot compel a religion to abandon its tenets.
I think an evaluation of various Orthodox Jewish communities would be helpful to you. We already to submit to both the rule of our rabbis in our daily life, adhere to the judgments of a beis din (a rabbinical court) on some matters of contract law (but we all still defer to prevailing civil law first). We're often accused of not being not much better on the matter of women's rights, and so far, things work out usually okay (though we have our issues).
I think you'd see more mundane problems arise in Shaaria enclave communities, which may already even be emerging. Like with Kiryas Joel in New York, which is predominantly a Satmar Chassidic Jewish community, you see chafing with neighboring villages and their township. Municipal governance issues, like water/sewage rights, school districts receiving public funding but favoring the majority Jewish demographic (thus violating the establishment clause), election polling issues, etc... it's not as dramatic as honor killings and things we associate with extreme or fundamentalist Islam in the Middle East. I said in another comment that the problems we'll see with Shaaria will likely be more about particularism than religion, and they'll be really, really boring.
I think an evaluation of various Orthodox Jewish communities would be helpful to you. We already to submit to both the rule of our rabbis in our daily life, adhere to the judgments of a beis din (a rabbinical court) on some matters of contract law (but we all still defer to prevailing civil law first). We're often accused of not being not much better on the matter of women's rights, and so far, things work out usually okay (though we have our issues).
I think you'd see more mundane problems arise in Shaaria enclave communities, which may already even be emerging. Like with Kiryas Joel in New York, which is predominantly a Satmar Chassidic Jewish community, you see chafing with neighboring villages and their township. Municipal governance issues, like water/sewage rights, school districts receiving public funding but favoring the majority Jewish demographic (thus violating the establishment clause), election polling issues, etc... it's not as dramatic as honor killings and things we associate with extreme or fundamentalist Islam in the Middle East. I said in another comment that the problems we'll see with Shaaria will likely be more about particularism than religion, and they'll be really, really boring.
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I wouldn't worry about Sharia law as some Christians are pushing for their version of Gods law to be the law of the land.
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Churches will never be forced to perform same-sex marriages as that would be a clear violation of Separation of Church and State.
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NAME your "many Congressional representatives and other government officials (who) advocate for institutionalized acceptance of Sharia Law." What an ourageous, bullshit statement. NAME THEM!!!
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SCPO (Join to see) You don't have to wait at all. Just read through the rest of the thread. Of course if you had taken the time to read any of the thread before posting your own flagrantly emotion-laden comment you'd have seen the answers to your question. If you don't have the temperament to have a civil discussion then I'm sure you can find a thread about your favorite duty station or your favorite movie to comment on. Best of luck, and happy reading!
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"Never argue with a fool. They'll only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." Best of luck and happy Reading!
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SCPO (Join to see) Hahaha...'Tis easier by far to type out a droll statement than to do one's due diligence.
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