Posted on Apr 12, 2014
Shaved heads in basic training; is this mandatory? If it is, then why and why only for males?
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So I was in basic training land today to help with some medical stuff. I couldn't help but noticed all the shaved heads all over the place and then the females with 20 ft of hair. In an era where we are screaming equal treatment; is this equal?I am also wondering why does a new private have to get his head shaved in the first place? Why not just a haircut within Army Standards?
Have the lines between male and female been erased? Are they trying to be erased or are we picking and choosing which ones we want to erase? Why does a male soldier have no choice in keeping his hair but a female does? If you love Liberty you will vote below.
ADDED: Could this be considered a form of hazing with the crackdown on hazing since this is obviously not a requirement but more of a tradition? I'm not saying I think it is I'm just asking the question. If it's not required and it doesn't apply to everyone.
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Well, well, well what do we have here?
http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/careers/2015/01/08/rtc-boot-camp-haircuts-navy/21439483/
Have the lines between male and female been erased? Are they trying to be erased or are we picking and choosing which ones we want to erase? Why does a male soldier have no choice in keeping his hair but a female does? If you love Liberty you will vote below.
ADDED: Could this be considered a form of hazing with the crackdown on hazing since this is obviously not a requirement but more of a tradition? I'm not saying I think it is I'm just asking the question. If it's not required and it doesn't apply to everyone.
*****UPDATED******
Well, well, well what do we have here?
http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/careers/2015/01/08/rtc-boot-camp-haircuts-navy/21439483/
Edited >1 y ago
Posted 11 y ago
Responses: 458
We had females forced to shave their head in Basic. I think that all policies should incoporate equality, the reason for the hair shortness is due to lice and other things being passed. The haircuts reduce this problem therefore both males and females should follow regimen.
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Well hell, while they are at it, just lower the PFT too. I mean, make it a gender neutral PFT. Like, hang from the bar for 70sec for 100pts. So, the weak can hack it. Yeah, I'm the bad guy.
Are you eye F*****g me?! Do you want to ask me out for a date?! Do you...
(You almost had it! One more second and you would have passed! Screw that 20 pull ups for 100 pts. Who the hell can do that anyway? Is that haircut regulation? You folks look like a bunch of dam Hippies with that long hair. I bet you have been bad mouthing your country!)...
Are you eye F*****g me?! Do you want to ask me out for a date?! Do you...
(You almost had it! One more second and you would have passed! Screw that 20 pull ups for 100 pts. Who the hell can do that anyway? Is that haircut regulation? You folks look like a bunch of dam Hippies with that long hair. I bet you have been bad mouthing your country!)...
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Political correctness will get soldiers killed in combat...Obama ordered the military to put females in highly dangerous stressful combat rolls but ordered the military to keep the present two standard for men and women...The physical requirement for females going thru basic training is easier than for males........
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I think that if the males can have there hair cut, which they absolutely should, the females should have their hair cut just as short. The exact same. Equality. If there is a reason to do it to males, the same reason applies to females. If the reason does not apply to females, it should not apply to males. It is ONLY hair. It will either grow back or it will not. As a man rapidly closing on 50, and suffering from 'male pattern baldness', and all the feminist rhetoric in the world, I have no sympathy for females. None at all.
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Technically it's not shaved heads. The Drill Sergeant is trying to confirm us to his will. To take the civilian our of us!
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I am a female and during BCT I had to stand at the back of the males line at the barbershop to keep my hair within Regulation. There was one other female who kept her hair as short as I did. We kept each other up through all the dumb snickers and jokes—like the guys couldn’t fathom having to share a chair with a female. We would come out like the heroes in the end though, cause we actually did it! That was how much we cared about the uniform, the job, and the standard. We did it, not because we thought it was funny, but because we had to, AND if nothing else, IT DOES GROW BACK. Big deal for a little while.
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When I was in the Army I noticed that EVERY post that conducted Basic Training there were people(mostly men)running around with camouflage make-up & shaved heads..
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Female regulation hair (as I recall!)is it can't be worn longer than the bottom of the collar, but it CAN be pinned up to that level. Males must have their hair tapered "off the ears, off the collar in back & out of the eyes"!
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SDG V Michelle Woods, I fail to see how your comment has any credibility. What’s good for one should be good for all.
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In the Air Force "shaved" means shaved. Our Airmen do NOT get shaved haircuts while in Basic Training. They do get a haircut that's close to the skin but it's NOT shaved. In the Air Force, while I was still in, you had to have a medical reason to shave your head hair.
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How is shaving a female’s head to match the male standard “equality”? Ok you want equality, grow out your hair and wear it in a bun.
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The main benefit of the BCT buzz is that you can get an entire company through the barber in minimal time - everyone gets the same cut, the same way, and it's the absolute simplest/fastest method to do a haircut...
Since very few men would want to do the female equivalent (bun), and the women thus need less frequent haircuts (an extra inch wrapped into the bun is no big deal)... No reason to change it...
Since very few men would want to do the female equivalent (bun), and the women thus need less frequent haircuts (an extra inch wrapped into the bun is no big deal)... No reason to change it...
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In this Jarhead"s oponion, shaving the head serves many purposes. 1) a time saver, both during receiving and during training. 2) uniformity, there was a recruit who's dad was a vice-president at Dole foods, my dad was a foreman at a steel company, Stevens and I looked the same. 3) tradition, the "yellow foot prints", the shaved head, getting yelled at before we even got off the bus, referring to yourself in the third person, catching hell for being a "generational" recruit!
Should recruits get their heads shaved? Yes!
Should recruits get their heads shaved? Yes!
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The military doesn't want just amazing men to serve. They also want amazing, strong, dedicated ladies. We shouldn't have to look like a man to be an excellent military member. We are females, and we should look like females. We'll still be amazing!!
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When I went through BCT I hated the female hair standards. Gelling my hair down every single day in a tight bun I wasn't used to hurt so bad. I felt like I was never in the proper standard anyway. Once I got to AIT and found out I would be wearing my kevlar for weeks on end, I cut all my hair off. I had the slickest fade. I loved it. Now of course this is not the first time I had cut my hair, so I didn't have the same unhealthy attachment to my hair most females do. However I do think it not only made my training a little less painful but it did feel like a total reform of me as a person. I feel the shaving of heads would benefit both Male and Female.
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There are only a couple of months to take hundred of individuals, break them down to a new realization of becoming part of a team. We lost our first OCS ... Masters degree Candidate, drop out at the haircut line.
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