Posted on Nov 23, 2015
Shoud Term Limits for State and US Congressmen and Senators be allowed on State and National Ballet for US to vote on?
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Was holding political office meant to be a lifetime career? Or does a life in office open the door to political corruption? Today, members of the US Congress and Senate have little fear of losing their job. Of course they can be voted out, but with the use of gerrymandering coupled with no term limits these Politicians can and do serve for decades. With each passing year in office we witness these officials amass political power and influence. And with their growing power, money and influence we have seen their motivation and loyalty turn from the people to their Party's interests, more power and the sources of money that helps them hold onto their little kingdom.
The attached link shows the top 25 longest serving Senators ranging from no less than 35 years to over 50 years in office. Could Term Limits make our politicians more accountable and responsible to their Constituents and our Country knowing they will soon return to live with the very people they were governing?
If Term Limits are good ideas, how do we get it enacted? If it need to be voted on, how do we get it on the ballet so we can vote it into practice? Can getting Term Limits in place be done?
http://www.senate.gov/senators/Biographical/longest_serving.htm
The attached link shows the top 25 longest serving Senators ranging from no less than 35 years to over 50 years in office. Could Term Limits make our politicians more accountable and responsible to their Constituents and our Country knowing they will soon return to live with the very people they were governing?
If Term Limits are good ideas, how do we get it enacted? If it need to be voted on, how do we get it on the ballet so we can vote it into practice? Can getting Term Limits in place be done?
http://www.senate.gov/senators/Biographical/longest_serving.htm
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I would take it one step further.. I propose we limit terms to ONE TERM IN A ROW. No government pension, no extended health insurance, no seniority. If you're in an office, you can't run for that same office. Also, if you're in office and you want to run for a different office, you first have to resign your current office... The People shouldn't be paying politicians to run for office.
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Im not too concerned with what benefits they receive while in office, but once out of office, it all needs to stop. I advocate for 2 non-consecutive terms for life.
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PO1 Richard Knox
SSG Ed Mikus, I encourage you to stay up with the comments on this post. I've been so impressed with the knowledge, insight, respect and genuine concern shared with my brothers and sisters in arms. I have taken in quite a bit with the comments and points brought out so far. Keep your thoughts engaged. And thank you Sgt for your service.
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There absolutely should be term limits. However it must be done via Constitutional Amendment. Unfortunately, in 1994 the SCOTUS determined that State Level Legislature cannot impose Term Limits on Congressmen.
The below case affected 23 states which already had term limits in effect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Term_Limits,_Inc._v._Thornton
The below case affected 23 states which already had term limits in effect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Term_Limits,_Inc._v._Thornton
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U.S. Term Limits - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
U.S. Term Limits (USTL) is a non-profit organization that lobbies for term limits for elected officials at every level of government in the United States. Among other activities, USTL supports ballot initiatives in numerous states. The organization was established in 1992, and is one of several led by New York libertarian Howard Rich. One of the founding board members of the organization was Eric O'Keefe, author of the book Who Rules...
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PO1 Richard Knox
Thank you for your feedback and the link. I welcome any suggestions, ideas or resolutions you feel may be helpful in moving the issue forward. And thank you Sgt for your service.
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A two consecutive term limit should be in place for all elected positions except President, which should stand at two total terms. If someone can be elected twice, be forced to sit a term, then be re-elected I would have less of an issue than having a 30 year politician.
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NO TERM LIMIT !!!! cry out loud .... they already have term limit! election day! Term limit can't fix "stupid" voters!!! this suggestion has absolutely the opposite effect that you think it will achieve!
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PO1 Richard Knox - Don't give up on the voters, they just need to be awaken. :)
gerrymandering can only do so much, information have no boundary. That is why the news media is the first to be corrupted or we would not be in this kind of trouble. That is how we should combat it, it is through free flow of information. If only the news media remain true to their "purpose", to inform the people, the bad, the good and the ugly.
That is the reason why all big government from communist to fascist, they must control the news media, the school and ... the church(religion). Because all three of those entity can spread info faster than a big government can cover it up. That will go straight down to individual politician.
gerrymandering can only do so much, information have no boundary. That is why the news media is the first to be corrupted or we would not be in this kind of trouble. That is how we should combat it, it is through free flow of information. If only the news media remain true to their "purpose", to inform the people, the bad, the good and the ugly.
That is the reason why all big government from communist to fascist, they must control the news media, the school and ... the church(religion). Because all three of those entity can spread info faster than a big government can cover it up. That will go straight down to individual politician.
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PO1 Richard Knox
PO3 (Join to see) - I have honestly appreciated your insight. I have listened to everything you have said and am taking it to heart. This last entry of yours made the most sense to me regarding communications. I am going to spend the holiday thinking this one over and see what comes of it. Keep thinking Hy, it is serving you well. Thank you for your participation and persistence in pressing your point. I appreciate the thoughtful words.
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SSgt (Verify To See) - About cooperation campaigning issue ... either you allow people to spend money as they like or you don't. Money don't equal to victory, there are enough example out there that opponent flooded the district with money but still lost.
The 17th amendment, yes ... that is part of the critical mistake we as a people must correct. but we won't. because majority of American don't understand why the senators were appointed by states, not elected by the resident of the state. So that fall into educated the voters again ...
Eventually, all issue must be solved through well informed citizen. That is the ultimate root cause ... all that you suggested will not do anything if voters is so under informed.
The 17th amendment, yes ... that is part of the critical mistake we as a people must correct. but we won't. because majority of American don't understand why the senators were appointed by states, not elected by the resident of the state. So that fall into educated the voters again ...
Eventually, all issue must be solved through well informed citizen. That is the ultimate root cause ... all that you suggested will not do anything if voters is so under informed.
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SSgt (Verify To See) - It will happen either way, money is like water. except there is no way we can use laws to create a sealed bottle, so it will get to where they want to get to,no matter how you try to stop it. Big business will do what big business do. but voters are still the one that vote.
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